IronMan
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Wondered if anyone can tell me if a TDV6 engine "really" needs to be run in?
Not saying go out and race it from day 1..
Some say Diesel needs to work from day one other say, let the engine settle before making it work..
Any opinions? 
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 11th Dec 2007 10:48 pm |
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Gareth
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I kept mine below 2500 rpm and did not labour it for 2500 miles, then built up the revs/effort gradually. I now have nearly 90000 miles and zero oil consumption which has to be good 
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| 11th Dec 2007 10:50 pm |
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Ocsid
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I am very much in the school of "dont abuse it".
That said I note yours is an Auto and I found that that made all the right loading decision for running in. So I would avoid inducing kickdown, keep below 70 mph and dont tow for 500 miles at least. Well thats my own opinion for whats its worth.
I would add that light loading with high revs is best avoided to save bore polishing.
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| 11th Dec 2007 10:53 pm |
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Slimer
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Handbook says:
Running-in
Proper running-in will have a direct bearing on the reliability and smooth running of your vehicle throughout its life. In particular, the engine, gearbox, brakes and tyres need time to ’bed-in’ and adjust to the demands of everyday motoring. During the first 800 km (500 miles) , it is essential to drive with consideration for the running-in process and heed the following advice:
• LIMIT maximum road speed to 110 km/h (68 mph) or 3,000 rev/min. Initially, drive the vehicle on a light throttle and only increase engine speeds gradually once the running-in distance has been completed.
• DO NOT operate at full throttle or allow the engine to labour in any gear. It is advisable NOT to use Sport Mode when running in.
• AVOID fast acceleration and heavy braking except in emergencies. The End
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:03 pm |
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AndrewS
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Slimer where did you get that handy info from In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:31 pm |
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AndrewS
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Oh the hand book In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:32 pm |
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Martin
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:33 pm |
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simon
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That's where I've seen it before 
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:37 pm |
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10forcash
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The only way to bed a diesel in properly is to work it hard from the outset 
fannying around at low revs and minimum load does nothing but build up carbon which transfers to the exhaust or the oil (depending on it's location) the key to reducing wear is to get the engine up to normal operating temperature before applying (significant) load and to allow it to cool down (up to two minutes) before switching off
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:43 pm |
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Gareth
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You may be right, but I just like to be 'traditional'
I remember a colleague of mine who picked up a brand new Citroen XM diesel, and did not run it in, and the engine seized after 500 miles. Then again, it was a Citroen so anythings possible 
All I know is my D3 runs sweet as the day it was new, and uses no oil, so something must be right TBH with modern oils and fuels its probably academic these days.
Think of all the fuel I saved for 2.5k miles 
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:51 pm |
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simon
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mmm... I'll stick to what the manufacturer say mate... then there's no warranty issues.
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:51 pm |
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simon
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simon wrote:mmm... I'll stick to what the manufacturer say mate... then there's no warranty issues.
And what G said... 80K miles and she is very smooth. Like a well shaved ladies  *
*leg
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| 11th Dec 2007 11:53 pm |
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Ocsid
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Careful Gareth this is a "Citroen" engine!
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| 12th Dec 2007 12:44 am |
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Gareth
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Some say, that PSA (Citroen/Peugeot) make the best diesel engines of them all. I had a BX that did over 200k miles, the only bit left in one piece was the engine.
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| 12th Dec 2007 12:47 am |
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simonsi
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Slimer wrote:Handbook says:
Running-in
Proper running-in will have a direct bearing on the reliability and smooth running of your vehicle throughout its life.
I doubt if a single EPB fault would be avoided, however careful the running-in according to LR's directions.
D2 engine management offered only reduced power for the first 1000 and approx 3500 miles from memory, maybe D3 does refined version of the same??? The D2 effect was quite pronounced and could be demostrated by virtue of the cruise control always had access to full power while resuming speed even during the period that the throttle pedal didn't! Cheers
Simon
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| 12th Dec 2007 7:55 am |
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