Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: Prudhoe
Posts: 864
Thieving bar stewards
This is beyond a joke now.
For the price of VED we should have billiard table smooth roads.
I feel it’s a form of victimisation when a car that was registered a few months earlier in cures a fraction of the VED of my car. I have owned it now for ten years when the difference was nowhere near what it is now.
9th May 2024 5:52 pm
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4540
Yep! I'm I the same boat. The joke is, that a newer 3.0 D4 can be lower VED, because apparently there is lower emissions. Unless the D4 does more MPG (which they don't) the emissions are the same or worse.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
9th May 2024 7:17 pm
Nasher
Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
Location: Clanfield, North of Pompey - UK
Posts: 2821
But there is a big difference, the newer D4 has AdBlue, which changes what comes out of the exhaust.
So under the current measurement of certain substances it's seen as less polluting.
A 4.4TDV8 FFRR from 2017 onwards is even less again than an AdBlue D4.
@£195pa, when the D4 with AB is @£395.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
9th May 2024 7:23 pm
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
Posts: 810
same boat for me also but i think its more of a way to get people to change out older cars for more efficient models that are cheaper to tax
seems to be the way of the world now to charge what they can get away with,i ride a triumph speed triple the tax on that now is £122 the d4 this year was £708 my d3 was £378 but i spend most of my time cycling as the roads are so blocked up now that its quicker to cycle the 3mls to work than drive there and as a result the triumph does about 100mls a year the d4 did less than 800mls last year and the wifes d3 did less than 6000mls last year
im hoping one day they will end car tax and add the amount to fuel that would suit me fine as the d4 was filled up on the 10/3/2023 and then refilled on the 3/3/2024 still i suppose its not going to wear out anytime soon oh and the d4 hasn't yet had the rate increase applied to the listed priceplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
current vehicles 2005 d3 2013 d4
9th May 2024 7:46 pm
AdamB
Member Since: 18 Jan 2023
Location: Thurrock
Posts: 148
Could be worse, you could have swapped from one of the lower band D3's to a D4 at over £700. Seemed like a good idea at the time.
9th May 2024 8:02 pm
DaveJLBI
Member Since: 07 Mar 2014
Location: Clare
Posts: 688
Or if you live in Ireland - my road tax on my MY14D4 is €1,250. Most here are registered as commercials paying €333 but are only 5 seaters. What is worse is the D4 with the 6 speed box on private tax is €2,250!
9th May 2024 8:25 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10740
Early ones £415 now.
They changed the rules after 2017. You only pay the high tax for 6 years (if the original price was over £40K
9th May 2024 8:52 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14487
It is what it is. I pay £600 for my happy clappy 2022 Defender.
As for the state of the roads, I'm glad I drive a LR. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
9th May 2024 9:44 pm
RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1738
buy a diesel they said, its cheaper they said, its better for the environment they said as diesel engines are more fuel efficient. we will even give loads of incentives to buy a diesel as petrol is so evil
HAHAHAHA GOT EM!!.... now lets tax them off the road and reap the cash
sadly we have no choice, just have to suck it up and try to recoup cash in other areas but I do miss my air suspension on all these green lanes... sorry I meant roads2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
10th May 2024 6:43 am
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2608
£40 less.... that said 15,500 miles of the last 18k have been on EV.....
10th May 2024 8:08 am
DIY Ace
Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 971
Loving my new-old VW T2. Nil VED !!! No ULEZ either and historic insurance is dirt cheap, I've never run a vehicle so cheaply before. It puts my EV to shame.
Might have to scrap everything as use this one as my daily driver.2022 BMW i4 M50. Bought Oct 2022. 10,200 miles and counting...
2014 BMW 435d convertible. Bought July 2021. 58,000 miles and counting...
2005 Discovery 3 HSE Auto. Bought Feb 2019. 169,000 miles and counting...
2009 Freelander 2 XS Manual. Bought Sep 2013. SOLD Aug 2021 (already regretted!)
Member Since: 22 May 2020
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1626
I can’t see why in this day and age, why the DVLA upon buying or selling a vehicle, can’t easily work it out to the day rather than this month nonsense.
In all but a few instances, you’re double paying for a month. Multiply that by the number of transactions and it must run into the billions by now. No that’s what I call institutional fraud on an industrial scale.
10th May 2024 11:15 am
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4540
^^ As soon as they brought in non-transferable tax I thought it was a money making scheme.Richard
D3 SE 2007. Triumph 2.5Pi 1973. Ferguson TEA20 1948.
Discovery 2 4.0 ES 2001- Gone
Discovery 1 300Tdi ES '95 - Gone
Range Rover Classic '79 - Gone
10th May 2024 11:17 am
MattTheTall77
Member Since: 24 Oct 2013
Location: Lincs
Posts: 272
I was a bit surprised when I had to tax my early D3 over the weekend, £435 for 12 months, I remember when I first had it the price being around £245.
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still i suppose its not going to wear out anytime soon 
oh and the d4 hasn't yet had the rate increase applied to the listed price
