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ClassikFan
 


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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4
InterCooler Testing

Hi All

I suspect I may have a leaky intercooler and would like to pressure test it without removing it from the car.
Question is are both the hoses that attach to the IC easily accessible without a major strip down?
If I can establish if I have a leak then I will devote a couple of days to a front end strip down.

I had all 3 hoses replaced this summer but I am still getting limp mode and a fault code;

P023D-21 (6Cool Manifold absolute pressure - turbocharger/supercharger
boost sensor A correlation - General signal failure - signal amplitude

Pete at BAS suspects a leaky intercooler.

Thanks
  
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Oiley
 


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I had a blown intercooler just last weekend I got no fault code or display faults shown on mine, if you drive down the road and loads of black smoke out the back I would go for the replacing of the intercooler, got mine from island4x4 at a reasonable price, and 4 hrs to fit it.
recommend you get the tab and pins lock for it.
  
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ClassikFan
 


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If I do have a leak I think it'll be a really small one. I only get a problem whilst towing.
  
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gstuart
 


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Re: InterCooler Testing

ClassikFan wrote:
Hi All

I suspect I may have a leaky intercooler and would like to pressure test it without removing it from the car.
Question is are both the hoses that attach to the IC easily accessible without a major strip down?
If I can establish if I have a leak then I will devote a couple of days to a front end strip down.

I had all 3 hoses replaced this summer but I am still getting limp mode and a fault code;

P023D-21 (6Cool Manifold absolute pressure - turbocharger/supercharger
boost sensor A correlation - General signal failure - signal amplitude

Pete at BAS suspects a leaky intercooler.

Thanks


hi mate

hope u don't mind me asking

have u cleaned ur map sensor
is ur turbo actuator arm is ok, can test by live data via the iid

Using a data logger function, monitor the turbocharger actuator position and command the actuator to 5% pulse width modulated (PWM), then 95% pulse width modulated (PWM) in 5% steps. Check the results. There should be a smooth curve between the minimum and maximum values.
   
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gstuart
 


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plus , often thought about someway of pressure testing ur intercooler / hoses , maybe building something cheap out of plumbing parts

then fitting a shrieder valve on the end

don't know if it would work, just a thought

these are the size of ur intercooler hoses

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic157268.html?highlight=t+bolts


   
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ClassikFan
 


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Map sensor is clean, actuator seemed free enough when I checked it in Jan. My car wiggles it on startup.
If I don't find a leak I will replace the MAP sensor before finally turning my attention to the turbo Big Cry

I saw a simple way to test the intercooler using a cut up inner tube and the existing clips. Seal one end and fix the bit of innertube with the valve on the opposite end of the inter cooler and pump it up.
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Smoke test will show up any induction/boost leaks Thumbs Up
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ClassikFan
 


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When Geoff. did my gearbox flush he gave the D3 a few revs and there was a little bit of smoke.
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Different kind of smoke test Thumbs Up

Essentially, fills the inlet with a fine smoke, gently pressurises the whole intake system, and any leaks will be evident by the smoke leaking out Thumbs Up
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ClassikFan
 


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Re: InterCooler Testing

Using a data logger function, monitor the turbocharger actuator position and command the actuator to 5% pulse width modulated (PWM), then 95% pulse width modulated (PWM) in 5% steps. Check the results. There should be a smooth curve between the minimum and maximum values.[/quote]

How do I do this? I have GAP tool.
  
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gstuart
 


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hi mate

if u go into the live readings u can test each of the following

Boost Pressure Actuator
Boost air temperature
Manifold Air Pressure
Mass Air Flow Sensor A signal frequency


whilst driving, u press the red record button which will give u live data for up to 10 x mins

im under the impression the boost pressure actuator is the turbo actuator , hopefully someone more experienced will be able to say if that's correct or not

if ur using an ipad u can take a screen shot, email the results to urself or print them

hope that helps
   
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SteveNorman
 


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I second what Mikey says. In A few seconds you can have the answer. A smoke machine will find a leak quickly.
Regards
Steve
  
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ClassikFan
 


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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Different kind of smoke test Thumbs Up

Essentially, fills the inlet with a fine smoke, gently pressurises the whole intake system, and any leaks will be evident by the smoke leaking out Thumbs Up


I this something I can DIY or do I need to go to a garage?
  
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adam
 


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Local indy bought one to test mine for leaks (which they found straight away) - don't think it was hugely expensive - believe they unclipped one of the large intake hoses and plugged it into that
  
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You can do it yourself if you spend around £500 on a smoke tester Very Happy
  
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