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How will it work for more people?
  
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Why won’t it?

Could bring manufacturing back to the uk. Could get our utilities owned by the uk rather than the French and Germans.

Lots of things. Get uk people working rather than sitting on there arses. Not a Brexit issue as such but something that needs to be done.
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I really don't think people understand the enormity and intertwined complexity of what we face.
  
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how would you convince anyone who has been supported fully by other taxpayers all their lives to suddenly go to work buahahaha buahahaha Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

i have lived in this country for over 11 years all toghether but it pains me people are so easily tricked by empty promises and complete BS

Britain aint empire no more it would be a bit hard to occupy India or some african land now to milk the Censored out of them to make country ritch and strong now it is time to trade and have something to trade with
 

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anglefire wrote:
Why won’t it?

Could bring manufacturing back to the uk. Could get our utilities owned by the uk rather than the French and Germans.

Lots of things. Get uk people working rather than sitting on there arses. Not a Brexit issue as such but something that needs to be done.


So how will it enable us to own our utilities and get them back from the French, Germans etc? These are publically listed bodies so the only way would be to nationalise them.

As the population ages and the working population shrinks, I some how doen't think getting the lazy workers into jobs will help make up he shortfall. All the evidence and research conclusivly proves that EU migrants are net contributors to the UK economy yet we want to send them home. It makes no sense.

If the EU decided to introduce laws and regulations for the banks that dictated that their HQ and 80% of their workforce had to reside in Europe, what could we do? Nothing! The EU can dictate anything it wants and we can do nothing. Yes we're a pretty large economy at the moment and a net importer from the EU, but as our economy collapses so does our relevance.

This whole process of Brexit has been based on lies, missinformation and jingoism. The EU isn't perfect but i'd rather we were in it trying to make it work rather than on the outside having no input whatsover.
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grzesiul wrote:


i have lived in this country for over 11 years all toghether but it pains me people are so easily tricked by empty promises and complete BS


I’ve lived here 46 and seen how the people have been tricked by the Common Market. We might not be an Empire anymore, but someone needs to tell Europe that they don’t need to create a new one.
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There are
195 Countries in the world.
- 27 in the eu.
- 1 uk
=167 countries that we could trade with.
There is a big wide world out there.

So i know it is going to be hard.
Yes you would be stupid to think other wise.

I think it would also be as hard in the EU, with the way it wants to go in the future, super army, superstate etc.
And that could be a bigger Danger, but thats another story.

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[quote="Moo"]
anglefire wrote:
Why won’t it?


As the population ages and the working population shrinks, I some how doen't think getting the lazy workers into jobs will help make up he shortfall. All the evidence and research conclusivly proves that EU migrants are net contributors to the UK economy yet we want to send them home. It makes no sense.

If the EU decided to introduce laws and regulations for the banks that dictated that their HQ and 80% of their workforce had to reside in Europe, what could we do? Nothing! The EU can dictate anything it wants and we can do nothing. Yes we're a pretty large economy at the moment and a net importer from the EU, but as our economy collapses so does our relevance.

This whole process of Brexit has been based on lies, missinformation and jingoism. The EU isn't perfect but i'd rather we were in it trying to make it work rather than on the outside having no input whatsover.



Hi Moo

Sorry dont agree with us wanting to get rid of EU migrants.
Control Migration from all the world not just the EU.
In this day and age i cannot see a problem with wanting to do that. And a lot of europe is know asking to do just that.
If you are saying we will not give them a promise to stay in the uk, then untill the EU agree the same for uk migrants then so be it.
I rewrote some of your last sentance, because it does work both ways with the crap from both sides.

This whole process of Remain has been based on lies, missinformation and jingoism. The EU isn't perfect but i'd rather we were out of it trying to make it work in the big wide world out there. Not in an EU dictatership.

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Brexit explained.

  
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But we already have control over non-EU migrants Confused

Leaving the EU won't re-nationalise anything

We will be out on our arses, and the normal working men + women will be left to pick up the pieces from the Censored that is Brexit
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MOO wrote:

If the EU decided to introduce laws and regulations for the banks that dictated that their HQ and 80% of their workforce had to reside in Europe, what could we do? Nothing! The EU can dictate anything it wants and we can do nothing.


If the EU decided it wanted to do that and we were still inside it we'd lose tons of American,Japanese and other RoW banks from the UK and just as with the bonus cap regs we'd be unable to do anything about it.

Why do we need to be in this protectionist racket when we are a free trade focused nation?
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DG wrote:
Brexit explained.



Whereas within the EU we could continue to have barriers to developing nations being able to develop industry and discriminate against nationals from countries that aren't overwhelmingly white.
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
But we already have control over non-EU migrants Confused


And an EU national is around 13x more likely to migrate to the UK than a non-EU national.

Disco_Mikey wrote:
Leaving the EU won't re-nationalise anything


Don't need to nationalise...just change the regulated rate of return allowed for utilities.
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highlands wrote:

Whereas within the EU we could continue to have barriers to developing nations being able to develop industry and discriminate against nationals from countries that aren't overwhelmingly white.


Who mentioned colour? Ah ...a brexiteer Whistle
  
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The trouble with the EU debate is everyone figures they are right and anyone supporting the opposing view is not seeing the complete picture, as thick as mince or even worse, prejudice.

You can cherry pick stats, sound bites and misinformation until your blue in the face, but the reality is we are leaving and it'd just how that matters.

Blindly complying with the EU will not do the people of this country as good. You have to draw a line in the sand and stick to it.
  
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