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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Yes. Without doubt, replace it
Should it be Landrover/Citreon or is OEM ok ? Also although I've seen plenty pumps for sale I can't see crank bolts available other than via dealer .... ?
20th Mar 2017 9:11 pm
gyislander
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Thanks Flack, parts now ordered.
21st Mar 2017 10:59 am
Lowland
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I know it's the same question but for clarity........
Hi all,
Had the disco nearly a month, new tyres are on the front (thanks for the advice on that everyone) and have finally got it booked in with an Indy lro specialist tomorrow for a good check over.
From reading the dreaded oil pump threads I was under the impression it was only 07 or 08 reg that had the weaker pump, mine is 06, belts done but no confirmation of oil pump assuming it's not done, should I?
In some ways it would be a shame as if nothing disasterous was found I was gonna spend money on a remap.......
20th Apr 2017 12:16 pm
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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The 05/06MY engines are not immune from broken pumps...
Not as common as 07/08, but it's always going to be a niggling doubt until it's replacedMy D3 Build Thread
My 09.5 MY had the uprated pump. I wanted to sleep soundly, so changed it early; well before 7 years & 105k miles.
I took the view that a new oil pump must be beneficial, and fitting it "early" meant that I, as well as any subsequent owner got the benefit of it.
If I was you I would change the oil pump, unless, of course, the pump has already been changed to the "uprated" version.
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2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
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20th Apr 2017 1:49 pm
moorman
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Ops yep uprated (damn predictive text). As car has only done 50,000 miles then I think I'll try not to fix what ain't broken. There's always a chance that the oil seal could leak after fitting or I could get a hernia doing up the crank bolt🤒.
Brave man - good luck. I trust you have a good warrantee.
NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
20th Apr 2017 5:53 pm
DN D3 Decade
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moorman, your oil pump casing looks like an intermediate version, i.e. the r/h support web does not taper forwards(thus not providing additional support for the tensioner mounting pad), just thought I'd mention that, so as you know that it is not the latest type. D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
20th Apr 2017 6:09 pm
moorman
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Just been to take more photos, this is mine on vehicle
This is the new from the box version
I think the shadow on my original photo was shielding the web
20th Apr 2017 9:57 pm
DN D3 Decade
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Ah yes, the shadow was hiding that completely my mistake D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
20th Apr 2017 10:03 pm
moorman
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Location: East Anglia
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Following a conversation this morning it would appear that there are 5 different LR part numbers for the oil pumps on TDV6. However that doesn't mean there are 5 physically different pumps. The different numbers on the castings could represent different suppliers of the units to Ford. Bean counters would probably put out to tender for supply of the pump castings and pick the cheapest. If the pre 07 MY had a non supported boss and that was carried through to post 07 MY then suggest that something in the later engine may put more strain on the belt. Once the problem was highlighted then Ford would have gone back to the pump supplier to change the boss support, or to a new supplier! My Disco is a June 08 but I've noticed a date stamp on a bracket on the engine showing Feb 08, the vin number is in the range 8A481XXX, the last three digits are in the lower end ( not included for obvious reasons) and mine is the supported boss version. I did try to identify, in my conversation, the exact vin number change but this was not available. In fairness to Landrover I would think they buy in the power plants from Ford as complete units with the cam belt cover in place so are not able to see the oil pump. Also as a supplier of the engine Ford would carry the responsibility and financial hit when their engines go bang. Somewhere someone has the dates of when various pumps were fitted to various engines, probably at Ford. There will be a paper trail on this issue probably using engine numbers. As an aside a local, to me, LR independent has commented that the oil pump issue is blown out of all proportion and apparently doesn't change the pumps. 😳😳😳😳
21st Apr 2017 1:34 pm
ruben D3 Decade
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I think what you say has some logic, some time ago I wrote something similar......I quote myself
ruben wrote:
there are 5 references :
EURO III
Part Number LR01348651* OIL PUMP, L319 DISCOVERY 3 from begin to (V)6A999999
EURO IV
Part Number LR002465 OIL PUMP, L319 DISCOVERY 3 (V)7A000001 (V)8A457085
Part Number LR007131 OIL PUMP, L319 DISCOVERY 3 (V)8A457086 (V)9A508509
Part Number LR007798 OIL PUMP, L319 DISCOVERY 3 (V)9A508510 (V)9A510121
Part Number LR013487** OIL PUMP, L319 DISCOVERY 3 AND 4 (V)9A510122 to....
* first reference **current reference
may be silly, but the first reference EUR0 III ( MY05 and MY06) has a numbering LR01348651 quite similar and immediately previous to the current reference LR013487 (even seems almost an evolution from 6.51 to 7), and it seems that they have not given too many incidents, could be it by the same manufacturer ???
...The intermediate references do not have a logical relationship and are very differents, could be related these changes in enumerations with changes in the identity of the manufacturer of these items ??? .... it is noteworthy that the first EURO IV (2465) seems to be the most problematic and lasted a year and a half.... and second one EURO IV (7131) lasted the whole time practically only one MY or more with few problems, and the last 7798 practically did not exist ...
...sorry for the silly If so, I try to see some kind of logic in all this....
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