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Change to Recommended Castrol Oil
I have just been on the Castrol UK website and notice they are now recomending Castrol Magnatec Stop Start 5W-30 A5 for the D3
Is this just a rebrand of the old Magnatec or has anything changed?
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23rd Feb 2017 11:31 pm
CUCO
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Just rebranding, same specs.
Oil manufacturers go with "the wave" following the markets. Now the trend is "start-stop" cars soooo....
24th Feb 2017 8:01 am
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Re: Change to Recommended Castrol Oil
fishinmad wrote:
Is this just a rebrand of the old Magnatec or has anything changed?
No rebrand and yes the oil has an improved specification. Engines and oils continue to advance so older product lines are deleted. There would be no sense in keeping older specifications in their line if they had a newer product that meets or exceeds the older spec, they need to shift volume to reduce costs as well as keeping relevant.
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There so many better oils out there - Mobil, Fuchs, Motul, etc.
This is not supposed to be challenging, but can you support your suggestion with facts; such as technical reports & comparisons?
I have a preference for Castrol, but am prepared to be swayed by persuasive facts.
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24th Feb 2017 9:09 am
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I'm sure I could, given enough time to trawl the internets.
But a couple of factors that made me ditch Castrol as soon as my vehicles were out of LR's care plan:
Castrol (in ZA, not sure about elsewhere) have a bad reputation for developing sludge in some engines, and my indie refuses to use it after opening up TDi & TD5 engines that ran long term on Castrol.
Now these could be down to local conditions (tougher operation, worse diesel, etc), so that's something to consider.
Personally, I noticed that my Puma's engine was quieter and less 'clattery' as soon as I switched my Puma to Fuchs.
I haven't noticed the same with the Disco, but that is a more smoother engine in the first place, so hard to tell.--
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I am sure that there are slight difference between manufacturers for the same approved specification of oil. The practical difference should be zero though as you should not be pushing any oil to its limits. Oil is cheap, engines are expensive.
Cheaper oil when changed more often is going to be better than a premium product taken to its marketing limits.
Change early, change often.
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Cheaper oil when changed more often is going to be better than a premium product taken to its marketing limits. Change early, change often.
That's my point of view. I change the oil on my D3 every 6k miles or 6 months, and on my classic cars every 3k miles.
I also change the oil filter mid-way between the first couple of oil changes, at what ever interval, in the case of a new or rebuilt engine.
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24th Feb 2017 9:40 am
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Robbie wrote:
Change early, change often.
Very sound advice Robbie, always change my oil and filter on my Disco every 7,500 miles.
Did this on a BMW 5 series which I sold to a friend with 286,000 miles on the clock and still going today with 320,000 miles.
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Agree with shorter oil change frequency.....14 or 15 thousand miles is in my humble far too long 6 or 7 thousand far more sensible.
Castrol....now part of BP is a specialist manufacturer of premium oils....not just a third part blender like Fuchs, Comma, Millers,....BP I trust.
They in thier own right were & still are a premium product company.....they made mainstream & specialist lubricants (marine, aeroplane, military applications) thier Sunbury research place was a leader in the field or research & quality control. They bought out Alexander Duckhams in the 70's for thier specialist product knowledge (marine turbine, large marine diesel cylinder oils)...leaders in the field.
Yes you can always buy lower cost....cheaper but in my humble opinion you just don't get better.
Car manufactures don't recommend oils as an incidental thing.....they suggest the best to guide customers & protect thier products under warranty.
Why take the risk of using lower cost with an expensive piece of kit that you rely on ?
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24th Feb 2017 9:20 pm
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Interesting topic.
We have always used Castrol for over 30 years.
We have never been disappointed with it, through its many guises from GTX to edge.
While there are cheaper products, none has the pedigree.
I can't argue if Fuchs or whatever is any better, just Castrol has never been a problem for us.
There is also a reason it is recommended by most manufacturers.
I agree the more often the oil is changed the better!
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24th Feb 2017 9:59 pm
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Robbie, What's the improved spec? I have just recheck the specs and the "new" and the old (last samples, not earlier magnatec) are the same : 913D (earlier was 913C)
24th Feb 2017 11:21 pm
Antjp
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Mobil 1 is now my choice of oil in all my cars.
Ever since my turbo was noisy on my VW engine pd150.
I changed filters & oil using the correct VW grade of Mobil 1.
2 years on its still perfect. All through a oil change.
Oil & filters changed once a year as is my disco
Both vehicles do about 8000miles per year.
My disco hasn't had any trouble with castrol but my VW was using the correct grade of castrol when the turbo was screeching.
Just thought I'd add my experience's
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