Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1659
Elddis (Explorer group) bought by Hymer
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/business/bu...n-12588013Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
21st Feb 2017 12:21 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26701
Hopefully sort out the recent shocking build quality. My Affinity 550 is a lovely design, but I've given up on Elddis sorting out the bugs. They don't give a stuff!
So far, I've put decent screws into the interior to stop it falling apart, sealed up the Heki roof light to stop a leak- Glossop caravans had 2 goes and failed. I've fixed a stress crack in the rear panel, that Elddis said was not a water ingress risk and was therefore not covered under the warranty!
Now it's a good caravan, but the hassle I have had means I will not buy another Elddis, or go anywhere near Glossop caravans!!
21st Feb 2017 3:13 pm
muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1659
Can't argue with you Gareth - my 2010 Elddis Crusader Cyclone went back to factory for new side and roof leak in 2013 after 8 months of fighting for my consumer rights
Bought an Elddis Crusader Storm in 2014 hoping for a fresh start (unfortunately we didn't like anything else) but it was even worse built than the Cyclone so sold it at a big loss after a year and stopped vanning
I've heard good things about Hymer so may be tempted back
Just sad to see another UK company lostWanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
21st Feb 2017 4:24 pm
dunton10
Member Since: 23 Dec 2006
Location: SUTTON COLDFIELD, WEST MIDS
Posts: 208
You hear this so many times. Recently on Caravan Club club together there was a discussion about someone who had bought a Buccaneer (still Explorer group) at over £34000 and it was delivered with numerous problems/faults. Not only that he was having issues getting it sorted.
I had a 2005 Crusader Storm for 9 years and it was watertight when I sold it. Only issue in that time was a crack in the Truma water inlet and a crack that developed from the lower corner of the side window - fixed under insurance. Other than that it was a great van and it had some use as well.
I've now got a Coachman VIP and that hasn't been faultless. In fact ive had it 18 months and its still got some outstanding faults. Going back in for this years service soon and more bits fixing.Currently 2015 D4 SE Tech, Corris Grey
RLD Protector, led interior lights, timed climate, towing equipment
Previously
2006 D3 S
2001 TD5
1996 Shogun LWB
1989 Range Rover TDVM
21st Feb 2017 6:48 pm
muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1659
I had a Fleetwood Countryside late 90s and had no problems with that - cost £10k new
Cyclone was £19k new in 2010 - Storm was £25k in 2014 and both were full of faults - I resorted to diy repairs because of poor dealer and Elddis assistance
Lots of owners on CaravanTalk say old vans were far better than their new models which is crazyWanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
21st Feb 2017 7:15 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26701
Ok I will further that theory by saying we bought our Affinity off the back of owning a 2005 Elddis Crusader Sirocco from nearly new, until 2014.
It was a superb caravan, we loved the quality of it. It hardly had a problem and was totally dry when we part exed it for the Affinity.
UK caravan industry is going the same way as the motorbikes!
21st Feb 2017 8:49 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
We have a Fleetwood Heritage from the Adria period. We've owned it from new and had no end of damp problems, 2 of the 3 rooflights have been refitted, both awning rails and the front and back top joins. None of it under warranty as both the dealer and Fleetwood went under. It's now about 11 years old so I've given up getting it sorted although it will be inside once the new barn is built. Not what I wanted when I paid £25k for it although it has been a great caravan for the family, tows like a dream and great with alde heating.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
21st Feb 2017 9:05 pm
Garysdisco
Member Since: 02 May 2010
Location: cumbria
Posts: 137
We've had 4 new Elddis Crusaders over about 15 years and had no significant problems whatsoever, the build quality was excellent.
We changed to Swift a couple of years ago and are equally impressed. I thought the days of inferior British caravans were over.D4 HSE Lux,corris grey.
D3-2006 Metropolis.
Silver.
Black leather.
Lots of toys.
21st Feb 2017 9:37 pm
moorman
Member Since: 05 Jul 2009
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 276
Homer will have their work cut out with this one. I had the misfortune to purchase a new Buccaneer in 2009 ( I think). The two photos show what happened on its first outing to France. The unit was a complete shoddily engineered heap of junk. It bent like a banana through lack of structural strength at both front corners. The MD when confronted was useless in the extreme and even the engineer who finally came to see it showed a complete lack of understanding of the problem despite me having rigged up builders lines to show the fronts had dropped and the walls were bowing outwards in front of the axle. Their customer service isn't - it just didn't exist. My previous van had been German and was brilliant.
21st Feb 2017 9:46 pm
ClassikFan
Member Since: 02 Nov 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1026
ditched our leaky 2013 Elddis last year for a much better constructed Adria. No problems so far.
Hopefully Hymer can turn things around at Explorer group cos they have some good looking vans.
21st Feb 2017 10:00 pm
muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1659
Moorside - that's exactly what happened to mine
I know other owners who had same problem and Explorer claimed they had hit kerbs causing damage - they had to claim on insurance
This was a big topic until it got locked and attempts to post updates were removed Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
21st Feb 2017 10:21 pm
Hairy Dan
Member Since: 19 Jan 2011
Location: Co. Durham
Posts: 12319
I drove past the factory last week and they have a huge compound which is normally full of new caravans, but at the moment it is jam packed with with hundreds of chassis cabs waiting for the motorhome bodies to be built on. There was also 2 transporters waiting to be off loaded.Cheers Ian
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21st Feb 2017 10:34 pm
Snowman
Member Since: 06 Aug 2016
Location: Holmfirth
Posts: 317
Had 2 an Elddis and a Compass , loved them both , but wasn't impressed with the newer vans so went with a Luna which is great.
Glossop Caravans are shocking IMO you only have to walk round there used section to get an idea.
I looked at a 3 yr old Coachman for £15k with a shagged floor and others with catches broke and trim missing.
The salesmen said we fix all the issues on PDI. I told him that this was no way to present items for sale .
Also go down the eBay special corner at the back, I would not put a dead dog in some of those.Andy.
Series 3 SWB Wagon OEC614Y sold
Discovery 1 50th Anniversary Edition S882 BMA sold
Freelander TD4 ES Y615 YEC sold
Freelander TD4 Kalahari NX53 EVH sold
D2 TD5 XS 2003 YF03 WVW sold
D3 TDV6 2008 SE
21st Feb 2017 11:01 pm
discoteca
Member Since: 08 Mar 2010
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 1477
Suppose they all have their good and bad model years. Our first van was a Lunar which was great so we replaced it with another which was awful, particularly the interior fittings. Replaced that with an Elddis Crusader which so far touch wood has been pretty good.
21st Feb 2017 11:54 pm
moorman
Member Since: 05 Jul 2009
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 276
muddywheels4wd wrote:
Moorside - that's exactly what happened to mine
I know other owners who had same problem and Explorer claimed they had hit kerbs causing damage - they had to claim on insurance
This was a big topic until it got locked and attempts to post updates were removed
I put a posting on Caravantalk which had something like 12,000 hits. Found another van parked at Calais with the same problem as well as another one quite local to me who had purchased the van from a dealer close to me. I showed the selling dealer of that van pictures of my van but when they saw the other one they said thy hadn't seen anything like it before, bunch of lying, thieving ...........s.
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