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gstuart
 


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JMack wrote:
I use these, just for wire stripping. https://www.amazon.co.uk/C-K-495001-Automa...B002NZMM9M

Not used every day, but usually a few times a week, for the past several years. Still work great.

As for crimping tool, I use a ratchet type one similar to the one posted by gstuart, not sure what brand.
Again regular use for many years with no problems.

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same tool i use, really good and saves ur fingers from a stanley knife Thumbs Up
  
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The ratchet type work just fine on the std re/blue/yel insulated jobbies, but are no good on the red/blue/yel heat shrink variety as they simply cant cope with the thinner insulation, going down a size on the crimps works just fine for the yel/blue but what to do with the red? which is the most common size we use on the trucks.
We use the heat shrink variety all over the trucks/trailers all open to the elements and they give good service so long as you get them hot enough to get the glue to ooze out of the ends.

The truck maker prefers repairs to be made with crimps as you may be surprised just how many people cant solder and the ones who can solder who dont know what a dry solder joint is, then of course theres making a soldered joint water tight and black tape doesnt cut it no matter what people think.

These are my current favourite pliers, if you look at the end of the jaw you can see the single tooth that where the crimping takes place, best of all they are thin and you can get them in lot of places the ratchet ones simply wont fit.

Snap on PWC57 approx 35 quid brilliant

  
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I've used the Snap-On above and they do have limitations. Stripping wires in confined spaces is not easy with the crimping part of the tool in the way, but at least the tool isn't huge (as some are). The quality of crimps can be odd though, more towards a crush than a folded crimp.

They work well on red heat-shrink butt crimps as mentioned above, but in an effort to reduce the effort required the crimping surface is reduced in size, causing more of a pinched crush than a firm grip over a wider area. Move up to larger insulated terminal crimps and the required effort becomes significant, even with its smaller crimp area.

If the limitations above don't overlap too much with your use then they will be a good tool. I've noticed Snap-on now do a finer gauge version of the above, which would make more sense for modern car use. I'm tempted to try one.

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anglefire wrote:
Martin wrote:
I detest the red/blue/yellow crimps so I do not have a tool for them. But as above I would buy the best you can afford, and from a reputable supplier not just off eBay.


Curious, how do you join cables then?


I use non insulated crimps with covers, or soldering with heatshrink, or smaller multi-way connectors depending on the cable size, environment and number of wires.

The red/blue/yellow do not crimp on well enough (particularly on small wires 1.0mm^2 and smaller) for me to be happy using them. There are better alternatives.
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We use these at work, they get a hammering as they're used by everyone multiple times a day, no sign of falling apart yet. https://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/p/products/0533279/
   
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^^ That is the pair I have. Although the handles have gone black with grime on mine!

We also use RS crimps as we have found the ones from local electrical factors less than satisfactory.
  
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Martin wrote:
anglefire wrote:
Martin wrote:
I detest the red/blue/yellow crimps so I do not have a tool for them. But as above I would buy the best you can afford, and from a reputable supplier not just off eBay.


Curious, how do you join cables then?


I use non insulated crimps with covers, or soldering with heatshrink, or smaller multi-way connectors depending on the cable size, environment and number of wires.

The red/blue/yellow do not crimp on well enough (particularly on small wires 1.0mm^2 and smaller) for me to be happy using them. There are better alternatives.


i also prefer the non insulated terminals , are these the type of clear covers u use, where one goes inside one another

find on the rachet in having the small black terminal holders a godsend

don't know what the smallest wire size i can put into the ratchet

also like heat shrink

is always good fun in sometimes putting some solder on the terminals for good measure , lol









  
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Oh I like the idea of terminal holders - genius!

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robbie

find the holders a godsend , we all know what it's like trying to hold the wire into smaller terminals and then trying to crimp it Big Cry

been trying to find the link, bought it from a company in kent , that do all the electrical connectors, wires etc but can't find it

think it was around £50 quid, well worth it
  
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Robbie wrote:
Oh I like the idea of terminal holders - genius!

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found it at last

company is in staplehurst , kent

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/ratc...g-tool-kit


  
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If it means I can keep my gloves on such a device would be fantastic.

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will come in handy

wish to fit a led light bar on the front, along with a switch so it can also come on and off with the full beam stalk

believe the spotlight connector is underneath the engines fuse box

also found the two connectors behind the os headlight , being the fog and pdc connections

been searching for what connector i need to connect onto the spot one and also the fog
  
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Mates just fitted a led roof bar to the roof rails on his D1 I did warn him it would be noisy, he reckons its unreal Mr. Green
  
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looking at fitting one to the front grill, sorry should have said the location

or maybe behind the grill as some have done

heard that as well ref putting led bars on the roof in becoming noisy
  
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