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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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I would understand that if these weren't already well established models ...e.g. what is the point of testing the 2015/16 Discovery for example when it is, or was about to go out of production.  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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 14th Jan 2017 7:53 pm |
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RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
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It is a bit of a conundrum that, i wonder if they scrap the ones that have been testing new things on model year enhancements? mechanical things like introduction of DEF or stop start etc? to get some tax back or something. MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
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| 14th Jan 2017 8:13 pm |
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Admirable
Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Fife
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These are cars that have covered in excess of 250,000 miles with no breakdowns, engine failures, water leaks, started first time in -20deg temperatures, no electrical problems..............in fact no adverse issues at all!
Could you imagine the consequences of someone buying a car like that from JLR?
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| 14th Jan 2017 8:14 pm |
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muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1659
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Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day!
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| 14th Jan 2017 11:03 pm |
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lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
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anjo14 wrote:Read this article on the stock piling of brand new vehicles and scrapping.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-16/w...ars-go-die
Im not 100 percent thats accurate as the Sheerness docks mentioned used to have a large car carrier ship there in and out all the time so they must be turning the stock over, Im not sure on latest info as Ive not taken the boat out for ages.
If you google maps bruntingthorpe and look at all the mothballed supermarket trucks and trailers parked there then the huge numbers of cars which are slowly pushing out the trucks/trailers, so much so they are having to find other parking arrangements.
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| 15th Jan 2017 7:31 am |
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VVS210
Member Since: 05 Aug 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 506
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APL wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm29bEHeB1k
There are some very clear large hand spray painted numbers visible on the D4s which is a common way of marking vehicles after 'incidents' in order to record them - for example when assessing the cargo on the transporter that went over in the Solent any photos would show where the vehicle was, partially submerged, etc. and it would be easily identified by the number painted on it so it is possible they are insurance write offs. Would be supported by the fact that we never saw a surge of 'new take-off' heated wheels, leather seats, wheels, lights, etc. on eBay etc after that event? - those parts must have been dispose of some how. D4 - Stornoway Grey
D2 V8 - Zambesi Silver (rust free JDM import 😎)
FL2 - Sd4 HSE
110 Td5 DCPU - Bonatti Grey - sold
FL2 Td4 - Zambesi Silver - sold
D2 Td5 - Epsom Green - sold
F1 Td4 - Giverney Green - sold
90 300 Tdi - White – sold BIG mistake should have kept it!
F1 Td4 - written off by a taxi!
D1 300 Tdi - written off by a Fiesta...
D1 200 Tdi - sold
90 Turbo Diesel - sold
Ser 2a SWB - sold and glad I 'got rid'
Ser 2 SWB - sold but wish I still had it!
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| 16th Jan 2017 9:10 am |
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tuonov
Member Since: 28 Nov 2016
Location: London
Posts: 57
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There's the different category of vehicle write offs - Cat B can never go back on the road but can be salvaged for parts, Cat A cannot be salvaged for parts either.
If they aren't test vehicles, could be Cat A salvage after an incident like water damage or transport damage - as frustrating and wasteful as it sounds - they are simply not allowed to scrap and strip the parts off them, even though many of us would love to get hold of one for parts!
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| 16th Jan 2017 11:39 pm |
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Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 07 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4156
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The reason Cat A and Cat B vehicles are never returned to the road is for the reason to stop continued thefts.... the big insurers decide to take one big hit rather than a series of thefts...
Confused?
If a car is stolen but is recovered minus it's interior an insurer will prefer to Cat B it.....the reasoning behind that is the fact that if they go on and sell the salvage to the general public, as sure as eggs is eggs another similar car will be stolen to provide the interior for the first vehicle.....
This in turn will be sold as salvage and thus the never ending cycle goes on and on....
Most big insurers also don't care about salvage values as it has become irrelevant to them. Most insurers have agreed rates with salvage companies. The salvage company pays the insurer a multi million pound deal (for example £10 million pound) and for that any vehicle that has to be disposed of by the insurance company automatically becomes the property of the salvage company.... they obviously have to dispose of the salvage remains as whatever category the insurer decides but overall the insurer doesn't care whether it's worth £500 or £50,000 because they have already had their money...
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| 17th Jan 2017 8:13 am |
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Maxc
Member Since: 19 Nov 2014
Location: Southampton
Posts: 29
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I did a lot of work with JLR a couple of years ago and the exec leading the project had a new FFRR that was scheduled to be scrapped after his short tenure as it was fitted with test parts - suspension as I recall. It was regularly monitored, also fitted with a lot of additional sensors. He had it for around 3 months, than had yet another. he also had a second "official" car that was cycled every few months to feed the dealer network. He always complained about never being able to choose the spec himself!
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| 18th Jan 2017 12:06 am |
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