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Have LR really thought about this one-piece tailgate?
I mean... All the moans so far all revolve around the lack of the drop down part of the tailgate, but have they really thought about this...
I parked a little close to a bollard today, meaning I couldn't drop the lower tailgate when putting shopping in the boot (yep, purgatory does happen from time to time...), resulting in my shin inadvertently meeting the towbar with some force!
Oh my sainted aunt! Pain like I haven't experienced since I fell off a tail-lift (whole different story...) but something that I think D5 owners may come to know at first hand time after time...
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29th Oct 2016 7:24 pm
Irwin
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Was it enough pain to make you buy the electric fold out towbar? If yes, then Land Rover have thought it through
29th Oct 2016 7:35 pm
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If you parked too close to the bollard to open the lower tailgate, can I assume that you wouldn't have been able to open the tailgate at all on new thing?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
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29th Oct 2016 7:43 pm
LiftedDisco
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Good points so far...
A). Maybe it's an evolutionary thing that gradually less and less people will expect / want towbars on a D5 and the whole thing will morph into a non-utility vehicle with anyone who wants to tow opting for L663 (as, if and when...)
B) Maybe Disco 5(b) will have regressed to a drop down window within the rear section, in the style of a Freelander 1.
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29th Oct 2016 8:01 pm
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Or a painfull thing.
29th Oct 2016 8:05 pm
J77
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Pretty sure this has all been covered in the split tailgate thread 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
29th Oct 2016 9:50 pm
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Are you saying we are not allowed to spread our dislike for the D5 around then? Andy
30th Oct 2016 9:02 am
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No each to their own but just don't see the need for multiple threads on the same thing 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
30th Oct 2016 10:01 am
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Apologies - didn't mean to cause offence with my tale of damaged shins...D4 Commercial - 65 Plate, 2016MY
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30th Oct 2016 9:08 pm
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No offence caused 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
30th Oct 2016 10:36 pm
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So coming back to the failure of the D5 to have a split tail gate. At least if you do injure yourself, the split tail gate gives you somewhere to sit and apply plasters, bandages, make a calming brew or for the family to perch and laugh as you writh around the floor in agony.
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30th Oct 2016 10:42 pm
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I just see it as an opportunity for someone to come up with an after-market "proper tailgate".
30th Oct 2016 11:05 pm
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Re: Have LR really thought about this one-piece tailgate?
LiftedDisco wrote:
I mean... All the moans so far all revolve around the lack of the drop down part of the tailgate, but have they really thought about this...
I parked a little close to a bollard today, meaning I couldn't drop the lower tailgate when putting shopping in the boot (yep, purgatory does happen from time to time...), resulting in my shin inadvertently meeting the towbar with some force!
Oh my sainted aunt! Pain like I haven't experienced since I fell off a tail-lift (whole different story...) but something that I think D5 owners may come to know at first hand time after time...
Ouch to the power of gazillions...
We rarely drop the lower tailgate when putting the shopping in and have yet to suffer any collisions with the tow bar.==================================
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30th Oct 2016 11:18 pm
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I can't see what all the fuss is about tbh.
I see the lower tailgate on the 3/4 as something that stops me reaching the far boot area, I never really sit on it and find it far more of a hinderance than a help. It's in the way when hitching up so has to be shut which means you have to put everything in the boot (hitchlock, towbar etc) or on the floor. If it was a one piece tailgate it could sit in the boot and I wouldn't have to get up to reach stuff. Makes loads of sense to me. I don't keep horses so perhaps I don't see the point (to point). The flap in the D5 seems just as good a seat as was the lower tailgate did anyhow so still don't see the problem.
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The thing is that if you shave off a few inches from the tailgate, you can reach into the boot a few inches further - which might represent say 10% of the length - but for those who want to use the tailgate, those few inches represent say 50% of the tailgate gone, so it's a little more boot access for much less tailgate, and when it comes to roof access, the ability has gone entirely - no doubt part of McGovern's plan to deter roof rack use!Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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