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geoffsnook
 


Member Since: 13 Jun 2014
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Wales 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

So can you not use the switch packs you have until the right one's come along or spray your current ones pic's would be useful Thumbs Up
 4x4 screen
Clock on dash
3 flash indicators
D4 sat-nav screen
Rear tints
cubby fridge
Beanie grill
PlayStation 2 with front and rear screens
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Post #172396124th Oct 2016 6:24 pm
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gvw
 


Member Since: 16 Jan 2012
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England 2009 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

You can swap the insides of the switches around if you take them apart carefully.

Edit: mines a 59 plate and needed a new clock spring
  
Post #172434225th Oct 2016 4:11 pm
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VVS210
 


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England 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 GS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

Sounds as if what they are selling you are the switch packs for a later model year car & my experience of fitting 2016MY switches to my 2010MY was they didn't work!

I appreciate your need but my advice would be to contact the specialist breakers like MMJ, Equicar, Skan 4x4, etc. & try & source the switches from them - they were used in RRS as well as D4 & you need the ones with embossed horn symbols not the ones with the bump with a white painted horn on them.

I ended up buying a complete RRS wheel then selling on what I didn't need for my conversion.
 D4 - Stornoway Grey
D2 Td5 - Epsom Green - sold
F1 Td4 - Giverney Green
90 300 Tdi - White underneath but often covered in mud
F1 Td4 - written off by a taxi!
D1 300 Tdi - written off by a Fiesta...
D1 200 Tdi - sold
90 Turbo Diesel - sold
Ser 2a SWB - sold and glad I 'got rid'
Ser 2 SWB - sold but wish I still had it! 
 
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Robert SausageTrousers
 


Member Since: 09 Aug 2015
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Bali BlueDiscovery 4

Gah, what a nightmare - so if I was to buy these switches there's a chance they wont' even work? Sad

Thanks for the advice, I've found that the steering wheel is from a 2015 car as well so mating it with my 2010 is going to be a pig, or is the wheel compatible?

I think I'm going to have to sell the wheel on to someone else by the looks of it, the initial responses to this thread made me believe that all I needed was a wheel and clock spring so I just went ahead and bought it Sad
  
Post #172464226th Oct 2016 7:52 am
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geoffsnook
 


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Wales 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

I would sell the wheel and start from scratch Thumbs Up
 4x4 screen
Clock on dash
3 flash indicators
D4 sat-nav screen
Rear tints
cubby fridge
Beanie grill
PlayStation 2 with front and rear screens
De-tangoed 
 
Post #172470326th Oct 2016 9:26 am
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Robert SausageTrousers
 


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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Bali BlueDiscovery 4

Yeah, it's looking like that'd be the best bet Sad
  
Post #172474326th Oct 2016 10:36 am
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VVS210
 


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England 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 GS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

OK, so what follows is based on my experience of putting a heated wheel on my 2010 D4 GS and is intended to help the OP and anyone else who wants to do an upgrade - I got help from people when doing mine so am merely passing on a combination of that help plus what I know in the hope that it helps others.

I have an 'AA' prefix VIN number and it did NOT have a heated clock spring fitted - your car is a higher spec than mine so may have it but if I were you I would take the cowling off the steering column and look to see if the power supply is connected or simply terminates with the plug wrapped in a piece of grey foam and taped up.

To take the cowling off there are a couple of T20 head screws in the underside and you will see the power cable on the left side.

As regards the wheel itself, if you just have a bare wheel it will work with any model year car PROVIDED THAT THE CORRECT MODEL YEAR ECU AND SWITCHES ARE USED.

For a 2010MY car you need an ECU like the top one in this photo - the red plug connects to the clock spring, the black plug connects to the heated wheel switch pack and the heated wheel plugs directly into the ECU at the opposite end to where the other wires come out, you keep the rest of your wheel loom:





The ECU in the bottom of the photo is for a 2013MY car onwards and is NOT for your 2010MY car.

As I have mentioned already, if you have a cruise control switch pack there is no need to replace this, it will still work as you are not replacing any of the existing steering wheel loom.

You will need the correct heated wheel/phone/voice activation switch pack though to go on the right hand side of the wheel. It looks like this - note there is no white painted horn symbol on it:





Don't worry if the colour does not match your existing switch packs as it is easy to take them apart and swap over the heated wheel switch and circuit boards so you can re-use your existing switch pack - i.e. if it is piano black (or Formica Rolling with laughter ) or if you have chrome tipped switches etc. - the heated wheel switch simply goes where there is a blanking plate on the existing switch pack.

When I did mine I bought a soft leather wheel from a specialist breaker who had a delivery damaged 2016MY car as I like them rather than the correct for year black shiny leather wheels. It came with the corresponding switch packs and ECU and I know from trying to get these to work that they don't in a 2010MY car! (I also bought the heated clock spring and both the indicator and wiper control stalks which are a straight swap Thumbs Up )

I then bought a complete 2010MY RRS heated wheel from a breaker on a well known internet auction site and removed the ECU and heated switch pack from that, replaced my existing non-heated switch pack, connected the ECU up and all worked without the need for any enabling - i.e. it was 'plug and play'.

I sold the spare cruise control switch pack from the RRS set up to a member on here and put the 2016MY switch packs and ECU into the RRS heated wheel and sold that as well, using the funds from these to offset the cost of the initial outlay.

If you want more info then drop me a PM, I'm working funny hours at the moment so may take a while to reply to you though.

Cheers.
 D4 - Stornoway Grey
D2 Td5 - Epsom Green - sold
F1 Td4 - Giverney Green
90 300 Tdi - White underneath but often covered in mud
F1 Td4 - written off by a taxi!
D1 300 Tdi - written off by a Fiesta...
D1 200 Tdi - sold
90 Turbo Diesel - sold
Ser 2a SWB - sold and glad I 'got rid'
Ser 2 SWB - sold but wish I still had it! 
 
Post #172493026th Oct 2016 4:18 pm
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Robert SausageTrousers
 


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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Bali BlueDiscovery 4

That's really kind of you to post such a comprehensive guide, much appreciated - I'm still leaning towards selling the wheel I've got on and then trying to source the complete kit I need from a 2010, I need it to be as simple as possible as I'm not the most practical of people Laughing and faffing around trying to get all the different bits to work with each other seems pretty complicated!
  
Post #172517327th Oct 2016 7:09 am
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VVS210
 


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England 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 GS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

It really isn't anything to be scared of. If you can use a screwdriver you can do it, it's no harder to remove/replace the switch packs than it is to remove the air bag & wheel in the first place. PM me if you want me to talk you through it Thumbs Up
 D4 - Stornoway Grey
D2 Td5 - Epsom Green - sold
F1 Td4 - Giverney Green
90 300 Tdi - White underneath but often covered in mud
F1 Td4 - written off by a taxi!
D1 300 Tdi - written off by a Fiesta...
D1 200 Tdi - sold
90 Turbo Diesel - sold
Ser 2a SWB - sold and glad I 'got rid'
Ser 2 SWB - sold but wish I still had it! 
 
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ewikran
 


Member Since: 15 Oct 2016
Location: Tromso
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Norway 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

gvw wrote:
You can swap the insides of the switches around if you take them apart carefully.



Any info on this? Complicated? Easy to damage?

Just received a complete wheel with switch packs just to get the piano pack. Unfortunately it has the white printed horn symbols (didn't read this thread before the wheel was bought). Contemplating to do the switch if the process is not to complicated.

Or is it best to let it be and sell it on and look for another switch pack?
  
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M3DPO
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Baltic BlueDiscovery 3

I have changed the switch packs for the BBS paddle shift conversion on a D3 it's more delicate than complicated, main advice is do not over tighten the screws holding the packs in as it may cause damage to the packs, nothing to be afraid of just tighten lightly Thumbs Up
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It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
Post #172606528th Oct 2016 8:08 pm
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ewikran
 


Member Since: 15 Oct 2016
Location: Tromso
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Norway 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

This item has the white horn symbol but still claim to be suited for 2010-2013 D4.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCO...Sw2GlXD1rX

Is it possible to decode from the part number what year it fits?
For info the switch pack that I have bought have part number DH52-13767-HB
  
Post #172611428th Oct 2016 9:42 pm
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dlgis
 


Member Since: 02 Oct 2015
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United Kingdom 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 GS Auto Indus SilverDiscovery 4

I may be wrong but i think the "D" in the code indicates 13MY. Parts starting A being 10MY and so on. So a D part would be fitted also to later model year cars e.g. 14MY until the part itself is updated.

Also my 12MY GS has white painted horns as standard although no cruise ( until i retrofitted it) and no heated wheel. When i bought an identical looking cruise switch pack with white horn it didnt work as the PCB was a 13MY version. Managed to get the correct replacement PCB from a chap on here Smile easy to swap over with a small electrical screwdriver and good lighting, just be patient and dont overtighten as mentioned above Thumbs Up
 D4 GS 12MY  
Post #172625929th Oct 2016 9:54 am
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ewikran
 


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Post #172661529th Oct 2016 10:43 pm
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gvw
 


Member Since: 16 Jan 2012
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England 2009 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

For information to others considering this upgrade
My car is a MY10
I tried both a DH52-13D767-CA and a DH52-13D767-CB heated switch packs, both with raised white horn symbol coupled with an older style wheel ECU and neither would work.
When I changed to an older switchpack (not sure of part no. as it had been removed) hey presto it all works Thumbs Up
  
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