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Nightrider
 


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alternator keeps stopping charging

ill try and explain got a cig-plugin 12v meter run the engine and it shows 14.1v switch everything on and it drops to 13v rev the engine and it goes back up to 14.1v.

after about 30mins of driving the volts will drop like its not charging then all lights on dash special programs off and lower suspension indicators flashing.

stop the car read the codes and nearly all saying loss communication

clear the codes then drive for a while and it happens again been like this for a week.

brought a new alternator, new battery, brake switch and change the brake lights and still the same.

now when I switch on its going mad flashing not starting and when I connect the iid tool is says ready but wont do anything else so I can't read the codes.

tried a hard reset and charging the battery on a charger still can't read the codes .

anyone have any ideas what to try next?

cheers
  
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Check charging circuit fuse and the battery ground cable, including at the chassis end.

Forget about the fault codes as the doctor is ill.

Remember to check that the outside air temp is valid.

Also check the PCM (behind battery, in a plastic box) for corrosion around the pins.

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Check the main battery earth is not sheared off behind the alternator where it bolts to the block
  
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Nightrider
 


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thanks for replying

where do you mean chassis end the battery to earth is ok and I've checked all fuses in the fuse box next to the battery.
  
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jonathan.day wrote:
Check the main battery earth is not sheared off behind the alternator where it bolts to the block


cheers will have a look at this
  
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Also confirm the voltage reported from the PCM (IID live data) roughly matches your real-world voltage meter.
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What alternator did you buy?
   
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denso from advance factors
  
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Robbie wrote:
Also confirm the voltage reported from the PCM (IID live data) roughly matches your real-world voltage meter.


can't check this as my IId won't do anything it shows the volts when plug in
  
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Robbie wrote:
Check charging circuit fuse and the battery ground cable, including at the chassis end.

Forget about the fault codes as the doctor is ill.

Remember to check that the outside air temp is valid.

Also check the PCM (behind battery, in a plastic box) for corrosion around the pins.

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pcm behind battery look clean and dry
  
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You have a CAN-BUS issue. Nothing to do with the alternator or charging circuit Thumbs Up
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any idea what I need to do next?
  
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
You have a CAN-BUS issue. Nothing to do with the alternator or charging circuit Thumbs Up


Ahh yes, I missed the indicators flashing bit.

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Reading up on this site about can bus issues if I bang on the top dash above instrument cluster it clear the faults bang again and flashing lights so I'm about to take the cluster out.

Is the anything I should look at for when removing it?
  
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Pin/terminal security of the multiplug Thumbs Up
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