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Buying advice Disco 3 V8 in the US - will generic FCRs work?
Hello all,
I've just moved from the UK to the US and already have Disco withdrawal symptoms. I have found a Disco 3 (LR3) nearby (08 SE V8 with 77k) and it's a good price. First, if anyone has any pre-purchase advice on checking out the V8 I'd be grateful. I owned one years ago for a short period and loved it, but never got my hands dirty on it. I have read that the engines are pretty solid.
I can get a pre-purchase inspection over here from a mobile mechanic for a price, but would like to know whether a standard "OBD II" FCR can read LR fault codes to provide some info on what's going on with the electronics, etc. Can anyone advise on this?
I'll happily take all other advice on LR3 V8 purchases, noting that I assume the usual pitfalls to Disco 3 ownership apply. I'm a bit wary about the brake lines and their condition. Finally, does the V8 need the timing belt change in the same way that the TDV6 does at 7 years/ x thousand miles?
Thanks. PAGODA
5th May 2016 8:54 pm
Robbie
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A generic reader will display most of the engine codes and probably all the codes associated with emissions. Beyond that (ie the other 20 or so ECUs) you will get nothing.
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Thanks, Robbie. With that in mind, I assume only a JLR dealer-based FCR would do the trick, as I doubt I'll be falling over US forum members over here armed with the faultmate or whatever it's called.PAGODA
5th May 2016 10:57 pm
StornowayStu
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I'm in Austin TX and have the Nanocom and the GAP IID tool. You may want to see if there's an indie JLR shop who could do you a PPI too as they more likely have the specific tools. A pre purchase inspection for my Jag cost me $150. The usual things apply, service history, EPB, suspension compressor etc..
I have a 2007 V8 SE and love it
And yes, I came over from the UK twelve years ago. I'm still correcting people on how to pronounce Jaguar
6th May 2016 12:58 am
WillyEckerslike
Member Since: 22 Aug 2013
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Quote:
I'm still correcting people on how to pronounce Jaguar
Can you try and convince them that a D3 is a Discovery and not an LR3 as well? You may need to help them with any long words as you see fit.
6th May 2016 1:06 am
MGCarr
Member Since: 15 Jul 2014
Location: Lancashire
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The IID blue tooth diagnostic will do pretty much everything you will ever want and the support from Pat at GAP Diagnostics is second to none.
1997 Defender 90 for the kids and I to have a go at some competitive off road RTV and Tyro trials, daughter picked up her first trophy over the August Bank Holiday.
Previous Land Rover history
1996 P38 4.6 V8 Autobiography
1996 Discovery TDi 300
1972 Range Rover 3.5 V8
LWB Hard Top Series 3
LWB Truck Cab Series 2A
Not been without a Land Rover for over 40 years - I must need therapy!
6th May 2016 2:52 am
MGCarr
Member Since: 15 Jul 2014
Location: Lancashire
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WillyEckerslike wrote:
Quote:
I'm still correcting people on how to pronounce Jaguar
Can you try and convince them that a D3 is a Discovery and not an LR3 as well? You may need to help them with any long words as you see fit.
How about reminding them that there is an I in aluminium and an O in aeroplane
1997 Defender 90 for the kids and I to have a go at some competitive off road RTV and Tyro trials, daughter picked up her first trophy over the August Bank Holiday.
Previous Land Rover history
1996 P38 4.6 V8 Autobiography
1996 Discovery TDi 300
1972 Range Rover 3.5 V8
LWB Hard Top Series 3
LWB Truck Cab Series 2A
Not been without a Land Rover for over 40 years - I must need therapy!
6th May 2016 2:54 am
WillyEckerslike
Member Since: 22 Aug 2013
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Or that if a word has a u in it, it isn't optional.
6th May 2016 3:26 am
StornowayStu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2012
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 331
MGCarr wrote:
WillyEckerslike wrote:
Quote:
I'm still correcting people on how to pronounce Jaguar
Can you try and convince them that a D3 is a Discovery and not an LR3 as well? You may need to help them with any long words as you see fit.
How about reminding them that there is an I in aluminium and an O in aeroplane
Yep I ask them about sodum, potassum and those other members of the periodic table
6th May 2016 3:33 am
WillyEckerslike
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Sounds like a plan.
Just don't ask about plutonum or uranum, especially in the queue for check in.
6th May 2016 3:42 am
Robbie
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MGCarr wrote:
The IID blue tooth diagnostic will do pretty much everything you will ever want and the support from Pat at GAP Diagnostics is second to none.
Using an IID BT for vehicle shopping is not ideal due to the registration and VIN lock process. If it is already registered to a vehicle then it will still provide full fault code coverage on any vehicle. This is probably a situation where a secondhand unit would be very handy.
If you are interested in an IID then drop Pat a note and he may be able to make your vehicle shopping with a new IID BT easier. Just don't mention his split fingernail....
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Thanks, Guys. I've read quite a bit about the IID tool over the years here, but - as Robbie points out - felt that it wouldn't be much use for shopping because it gets locked to a vehicle and so for that reason I resisted the temptation of buying one before I left the UK (plus I wasn't sure if I was going to get another LR).
The one I've found looks nice, but seems to have one problem: the terrain response knob doesn't do anything, ie the lights don't change and the mode remains the same. I will put up a separate post on the forum as the only references I can find to this problem seem to relate to the sunroof (in the US I've learned that this is called the Moonroof - wtf??? that makes no sense to me) being left open and water pouring in onto the elecs. The other downside is that this car was hit 5 years ago on the front left resulting in $4-5k of damage. PAGODA
6th May 2016 1:05 pm
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Hi Everyone
Quote:
Using an IID BT for vehicle shopping is not ideal due to the registration and VIN lock process. If it is already registered to a vehicle then it will still provide full fault code coverage on any vehicle. This is probably a situation where a secondhand unit would be very handy.
Actually...
Here's our licence poliy:
Full diagnostic capabilities (free of charge on any supported vehicles for the IIDTool BT)
• Fault read / clear (including e-mail export capability)
• Live values (including e-mail export capability, up to 8 live values displayed at once)
• Control outputs
• Service / test functions (this includes service interval reset, oil...)
Advanced programming functions (IIDTool BT: one free VIN, additional licence available at 60 GBP):
• Suspension height modification (this can be quite handy for your customers on specific situations)
• ECU Flash
• Car Configuration File editing
• Component and system calibration (steering angle sensor calibration etc.)
• Advanced functions including backup / restore, save profiles – vehicle system settings and
configurations are read and stored as a backup file for a restore function, various changes
to systems (e.g. suspension height) can be stored and changed quickly
In other words, you can use the full diagnostic capabilities right out of the box prior to registering the unit. This is quite handy for pre-purchase inspection.
Once you've purchased the vehicle, you can unlock the tool to gain access to the programming functions.
Hope this helps,
Quote:
If you are interested in an IID then drop Pat a note and he may be able to make your vehicle shopping with a new IID BT easier. Just don't mention his split fingernail....
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pagoda wrote:
(in the US I've learned that this is called the Moonroof - wtf??? that makes no sense to me)
ISTR the early brochures called it a moonroof, but I'm not sure they weren't referring to the glass roof.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
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6th May 2016 2:59 pm
Robbie
Member Since: 05 Feb 2006
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PatGAPInnov wrote:
Quote:
If you are interested in an IID then drop Pat a note and he may be able to make your vehicle shopping with a new IID BT easier. Just don't mention his split fingernail....
Only 19 left
Nineteen left is probably a good way of looking at it - I said a something similar when I received a gunshot wound to just one arm.
Anyway, are you from Norfolk or something as most of us have considerably less than 20 fingernails?
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