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DiscoStoo
 


Member Since: 16 Feb 2016
Location: Norfolk
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Wheel bearing, transfer box or Diff?!

Got a noise that's seeming getting worse in the last week or so, coming from the front end. More of an 'oscillating' drone, which seems to become more apparent when steering, especially on long corners. The frequency increases with road speed, regardless of engine speed, if the car is in gear, clutch up or down. There's no clunking or similar, like you'd get with a CV joint.
I was initially thinking it was a wheel bearing, but the rotating/oscillating frequency isn't like I've experienced before. Just wondered what symptoms a transfer box or diff were?
Obviously, if I'm going to gamble fitting anything, I was going to go for a wheel bearing/hub, looking on eBay, they start around £40. I would rather a cheap one that cures it, (even if it goes again in 6 months) rather that one for £120 that doesn't!!
Thanks for your time, any advice welcome!!
  
Post #162981623rd Mar 2016 1:52 am
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camelrock
 


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Why don't you jack up the car and check for play etc take some of the guess work out of it
  
Post #162983223rd Mar 2016 7:16 am
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Gareth
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I would say wheel bearing. I would personally pay more for quality well known brand. You should be able to feel movement at 12-6 o'clock if it's a wheel bearing.
  
Post #162987723rd Mar 2016 10:05 am
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DiscoStoo
 


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Thanks for the replies. I'm now off for a couple of days, so hopefully get chance to have a look at it... I'd rather pay a bit more for a quality one, but at the same time, didn't want to waste money if it didn't cure it!
  
Post #162992923rd Mar 2016 1:04 pm
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HappyEater
 


Member Since: 25 Jun 2014
Location: Ontario
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Canada 2008 LR3 4.4 V8 S Auto Stornoway GreyLR3

Mine was making the same noise.
When jacked up there was very little (no) play at all.

When driving slowly and under low revs and round a long sweeping corner it was worse.
I tried to replicate it by kind of over-steering the corner. (I know its the wrong use of the word oversteer!).

I would have thought that it should be easier to do the above in a manual with a sneaky shift into neutral (at a relatively low speed). I would have thought a diff whine would alter in sound frequency when under load though so the above might not be conclusive.

It isn't that hard to take the wheels off, and brake caliper, push the driveshaft back and spin the hub - but by the time you have done that you might as well fit a new bearing assembly!

In the end I replaced both front wheel bearings - one was worse than the other and it doesn't do it anymore.
  
Post #163002923rd Mar 2016 4:40 pm
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DiscoStoo
 


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I've just been out to look at mine, got it up in the air and there's no play whatsoever... Got to be worth lobbing a bearing on and seeing if it helps! Thanks for your help guys..!
  
Post #163006023rd Mar 2016 5:48 pm
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dingdongs
 


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England 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 GS Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 4

Get a big sledge hammer the bigger the better and hex socket set for removing the 4 bolts as no one at the factory knows what copper slip is.Have you tried looking at the centre bearing on the prop as theyre prone to fail and give. A. Knocking noise on pull away as the prop jumps up and down
  
Post #163023124th Mar 2016 12:58 am
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DiscoStoo
 


Member Since: 16 Feb 2016
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Big hammer ready and waiting!! It's just literally a drone, no knocking or banging... I'll try a bearing and see how it goes....
  
Post #163031724th Mar 2016 10:37 am
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Dick e mint
 


Member Since: 13 Feb 2016
Location: Devon
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United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Adriatic BlueDiscovery 3
Front Diff

Front Diff

Dose any one know if it is possible to take out the front diff on a Disco 3 without taking the front suspension apart ie just taking the drive shafts out.

Thanks Richard
  
Post #163127626th Mar 2016 11:16 am
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BBB
 


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2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Manual Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

I had the oscilating drone you describe, once it was the wheel bearing, got noticeably worse turning one way (there was no play in the bearing) and the other time was a slightly sticky brake caliper, could tell by heat, would never have thought it would make that noise though.

Both sounded like a very low revving helicopter
 There is no I in team, but there are five in Individual Brilliance

Disco gone, emigrated to a VW Amarok 
 
Post #163128726th Mar 2016 11:58 am
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DiscoStoo
 


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I hadn't naked on the noise being sticky calliper, but I'll check next time I'm home and I've given it a run.. The wheels all look the same, with regard to the amount of brake dust,each side...
  
Post #163156927th Mar 2016 1:09 am
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BBB
 


Member Since: 01 Apr 2015
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2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Manual Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

I have had 3 bearings go,the first two gave the familiar screaming,the third was the oscilating drone,very similar to when the caliper was binding,only giveaway was the brake got hot with the caliper and the bearing did change with the direction of steering.
When it was my diff it was more of a constant whine which altered pitch by depressing the clutch
 There is no I in team, but there are five in Individual Brilliance

Disco gone, emigrated to a VW Amarok 
 
Post #163184927th Mar 2016 6:47 pm
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mini8334
 


Member Since: 17 Jul 2014
Location: Tonbridge
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England 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Landmark LE Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

Front Diff. Same on mine.

Disco Mikey fitted it.
 2016 D4 Landmark
Santorini Black
Removable Tow-Trust
Spare Wheel Guard

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Previous:
2007 D3
TDV6 GS
Automatic
117000
Blanked EGR
V8 Brake Upgrade
Harming Sat Nav Mod
Beanie Grill
De-Tango 
 
Post #163198027th Mar 2016 10:44 pm
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griff488
 


Member Since: 21 Feb 2013
Location: Tamworth Staffs
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

The last two wheel bearings that went on mine sounded similar to what you describe but had zero play in them.
 2004 Disco 3 TDV6 SE
1997 300TDI Disco (Rust In Peace)
Swift Accord 590
iCarsoft i930 
 
Post #163199127th Mar 2016 11:07 pm
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Johnny Oxford
 


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United Kingdom 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

sounds exactly the same as mine, which turned out to be driver side wheel bearing.

There was no movement evident in either bearing, and I was worried it could be diff - so wheel bearing is your first stop.

My wheel bearings had been replaced (both front) just 18 months earlier - genuine LR parts, by the previous owners indie garage.

I went with the cheaper ones from advanced factors (about £40 each) with 2 year guarantee.

With wheel bearings there is an element of luck involved in how long they will last as there are so many variables involved imho.
 2014 D4 HSE Facelift Corris Grey

Previous :

Discovery Sport SE (awful)
56 plate D3 HSE TDV6 Zermatt Silver
Defender 90 200tdi 
 
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