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Bodsy
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To Re-Map or not Re-Map that was the question......

And the answer is.........


So, my Discovery 3, 2.7TDv6, I have owned since newly registered in March 2007. So I know everything that has been changed or modified on it.
I’ve always been of the opinion that the engine is more than sufficient for the work that I ask it to do! I’m now on 174,000 miles (278,000 kms) and since the wife bought a caravan, I’ve been noticing that it can on occasion struggle to keep going up hills.

As part of the numerous updates that I offer, I have often been asked if I do D3/RRS remaps. So, in my quest for solutions, I decided that I would get a remap myself. Now my Discovery is the 2007 model which has the EuIV engine, so the EGR valves have not been able to be blanked.

I’ve discussed potential re-maps with a number of suppliers and in the end, I decided to go with Bell Auto Services. I’ve been so impressed with them that I’ll now be able to apply BAS re-maps as part of my other services. But this thread really is about the difference I’ve noticed on the before/after remap process.

So I’ve had a few threads trying to work out why some of my live engine values go flat instead of peaking the same as the other values. Compared against others, whose live values are definitely peak with no flat.
Having compared with the remap on and off, my live values are peaking where they should be and the hesitation that I seemed to get from time to time has disappeared.
I also wanted to blank off my EGR valves, which I have done on many other peoples Discovery’s/RRS but never on my own (see EuIV issue above). A simple blanking and removal of the butterfly along with the remap and my Permagrin is beginning to be restored. The big test will be when I next get the Caravan on the back, but based on what I’ve experienced so far, it’s not going to disappoint!

So now I have an EuIV engine, blanked EGR valves and a remap. The thing I’ve noticed over the last couple of days, is that if I floor it, I have to ease off the throttle as the pick up is soooo much stronger than it has ever been and the rush to 50 is just phenomenal!
The power has increased by 38bhp and 88Nm of Torque which will be in use as we drag the tintent across Germany and into the heights of Austria in the summer!
The thing is, you can still pootle around as I’ve done for some time, but when you call for the loud peddle to do it’s stuff, it certainly does it with hardly a hesitation.
You can really tell the difference when trying to overtake, there is no longer a feeling of ‘trying’ to overtake, it just does!
It seems to me to be most noticeable at the 30-50 range and impressively continues to push on in the 50-90ish where I have to let go and remember that I got this for towing power not boy racer (although it seems to be more than adequate at both when asked!!! Wink

So, to everyone who has asked me in the past about a remap, I’m sorry! it really does appear to have transformed the beast and I wish I had this done years ago!
For the fuel economist in me, I’ve managed slightly more miles on ¼ tank when driving carefully than before, but time will tell on the longer term effects. But if (as expected) I see no overall increase/decrease (except where I know I’ve been driving ‘spriritedly!) in MPG then I’ll be a very happy bunny. But I’m also happy to take a slight hit to get this extra power.

The beast lives on, long live the beast
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Totally agree with you Bodsy, on to my 6th year of ownership (never had a car more than 2 years) and took me 3 years to get a map (also bas) should have been the first thing I done, I do drive like a old man as I am a old man but very nice to have that extra power for when needed Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
  
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Did it hurt your insurance premiums at all? I really don't need this, but as usual, really do want...
  
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It made no real difference to the premium. Very much depends on the insurer though.
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Nice write up Ian Thumbs Up

The key point when anyone declares their remap to the insurance company should be : it's for increased Torque for towing and also general fuel economy.
They'll see it's a thirsty 2.5 tonne Land Rover and hopefully accept that without increase to premium.
Whereas if you say it's for extra bhp so it'll accelerate faster, then they'll bump your premium up.
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Or economy Wink
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Towing Economy Wink
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Nice one Bodsy..........now I NEED to spend more money!! Shocked
   
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you know you want to! Laughing Thumbs Up
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Nice write up Bodsy, Glad the car is going well and is providing nice power for you.

As you know while you are away with the tintent or any time if you even need me you know im here day till late night.


Regards Pete
  
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