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Towing electrics, dash fog light now on when in reverse..?
Hi all,
I have recently fitted (second hand) genuine LR twin towing electrics to my 04 HSE and now have the yellow rear fog light symbol come on the dash when I select reverse... The actual light doesn't appear to come on but im told the reverse light on the passenger side is dimmer than the drivers side.
When trailer is connected the rear parking sensors are deactivated automatically, I haven't had the car programmed.
do we think a re-programme would resolve this or are the electrics too new for my older car.1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten
9th Aug 2014 10:13 am
SHARKYSHARKS
Member Since: 20 Dec 2008
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Sounds like a short on the socket they are prone to corrosion !
It would be the first place I'd check
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9th Aug 2014 10:16 am
Mav 90
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good tip
which socket do you mean though? the actual trailer sockets or the connecting sockets in the rear light well?
the light comes on with or without trailer socket in use.
the 2nd hand wiring was in good nick, looked like it had hardly been used, certainly no corrosion on it. I would have said the car looks like its not had electrics fitted before so if there was corrosion it would be in the connecting sockets in the rear light well.
how do you resolve a short anyway? a clean and squirt with WD40?1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten
9th Aug 2014 10:23 am
SHARKYSHARKS
Member Since: 20 Dec 2008
Location: Saddleworth Oldham
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I'd start with the actual trailer socket !
Did you have a look at the wire connections inside the socket before you fitted it ?
If there is no short or green menace inside the socket I would disconnect the electric inside the rear quarter panel and see if you still have the problem if no problem then looks like you have a short somewhere in the loom of the towing electrics you have purchased !!MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
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Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
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Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
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9th Aug 2014 10:28 am
SADISCOBOB
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Be very careful not to short the indicator light power cable/s on chassis when fiddling with the socket - mine was shorted before I got it and when I used it with a trailer, I lost sidelights and 1 x indicator on the trailer due to a main card problem under dash. Result, my trailers don't have right indicator and running lights now powered with permanent power from socket ( main card too expensive to think of here! ) Life always good with a Landy
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9th Aug 2014 12:00 pm
geoff.
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SHARKYSHARKS wrote:
I would disconnect the electric inside the rear quarter panel and see if you still have the problem if no problem then looks like you have a short somewhere in the loom of the towing electrics you have purchased !!
9th Aug 2014 5:46 pm
Martin Site Admin and Owner
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Were the electrics from a D3 or D4? Do they have the fuse box in the loom that came with them?
9th Aug 2014 5:55 pm
Mav 90
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Ok, will check condition of sockets first and then disconnect to test. It wasn't happening before I fitted it so I fully expect there to be an issue in the wiring I bought.
I'm not 100% sure if d3 or d4 but I reckon it's d4. I will check in morning as still has part number on them.1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten
9th Aug 2014 9:00 pm
Mav 90
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And yes it does have the fuse box built in to the loom.1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten
9th Aug 2014 9:11 pm
Martin Site Admin and Owner
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OK if it has the fuse box then it is a D3 loom. You can't use a D4 towing electrics loom on a D3 and vice versa 06 D3 SE / 15 LR D90 XS SW / 88 LR 90 Td5 / 68 BMW 2000 ti
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9th Aug 2014 9:44 pm
Mav 90
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Just been investigating.
The aux socket has some green oxidisation in one of the holes. See pics.
Is it possible that this is the cause? If so how is it best to clean it up? Don't want to cause more damage by poking the wrong tool in the wrong place.1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten
10th Aug 2014 11:54 am
SHARKYSHARKS
Member Since: 20 Dec 2008
Location: Saddleworth Oldham
Posts: 1954
Clean it with some fine emery paper, but you really need to have a look in the back of the socket, which is where the problems start and check all wires are secure and there is no shorts between cables !!MY18 D5 HSE LUX😎
MY12 Freelander SD4 HSE
44 Tonne 12 Litre 6x2 Scania T cab (Current)
Freelander 1 (Wrote off 😫)
Ex D1
Ex D2 GS
Ex V8 D2 GS
Ex D3 S
Ex D4 GS
Club skip ya lockers !!!
Club BAS remote heater !!
Club Duratrac
Club Phillips DRL
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 1
Club Prospeed Rack Mk 2
Club Sankey
Club RLD spare wheel protector
10th Aug 2014 12:04 pm
Mav 90
Member Since: 10 Jul 2014
Location: Essex
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Well, solved this issue.
Turns out the bulb on the reverse light was the cause. After about an hour of testing and head scratching my father in law happened to have popped in and gave the rear light an 'old school whack' and fixed it....
I must have disturbed it when I removed the light cluster when fitting the tow electrics. I removed the bulb which had some green oxidisation and cleaned it up and put it back.
All is good now.
Wish I could say the same about my suspension.. 1974 S111 SWB 200di conversion, rag top, bronze green. Known as Munch
2004 pre-production D3 V8 HSE Tonga green, gone but buy back option!
2001 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium Epsom green - gone, but only round the corner!
1961 S11 SWB marine blue rag top - gone but not forgotten
2000 D2 4.0 V8 ES premium black - gone but not forgotten
1988 RR classic 3.5 V8 green - gone and nearly forgotten
1976 S111 LWB 2.25 diesel truck cab various shades of bronze green - gone and most definitely forgotten
10th Aug 2014 8:55 pm
michael calvert
Member Since: 03 Dec 2011
Location: West Yorkshire
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Not the same fault but my plant trailer has one of those leads that connect the car socket to the trailer one
When I use that sometimes
The car side lights flash when I dab the brake! Any ideas. ....D3 gone
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