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Simong
Member Since: 26 Feb 2006
Location: Spectacular Yorkshire
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My Scorpions (255/60/18's) are nearing the end of their life and I'm thinking of replacing them with AT2's.
I'd like to know from anybody who is running them what they are like on road. IE noise, handling etc I think it's a given that they will be better off road!!
Also, what price should I expect to pay?
Cheers
Simon
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 29th Apr 2007 12:29 am |
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chesters
Member Since: 03 Oct 2005
Location: The Toon
Posts: 698
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I am going to have these tyres next and the best price I have had is £119 all in at Tyre spot in Newcastle. This company was given to me by ringing the site sponsor. Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
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| 29th Apr 2007 8:35 am |
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vertex
Member Since: 05 Jun 2006
Location: Dubai
Posts: 176
 
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I think it would be a good idea to have a posting specific to best tyres combinations...lots of other forum members swear by the Goodyear MTR...
my suggestion is for the gurus to list the 5 or 10 best tyres for the D3 based on their experience. nothing yet.
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| 29th Apr 2007 11:33 am |
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bkehoe
Member Since: 24 Feb 2006
Location: Wexford
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Hoping to have mine on in time for the France offroading trip next weekend, so will be reporting back on how they performed. Ordered them for just under £100 each ex vat. They seem to be cheaper in mainland Europe though for some reason!
The MTR is for a different type of terrain vertex - mostly Mud, which we do see a lot of in these parts. Unfortunatly they are noisy on the road. The AT2 is an all terrain tyre which are the best kind of a compromise for those that don't do a huge amount of offroading, but still want to be able to tackle the tough stuff, but then go back onto the road and have almost the same performance from the tyres as 'road tyres'. Those I've spoken to with the AT2s seem to think that in some conditions on road they seem to be better than the standard tyres, and with almost no noise. IE - 05 D3 TDV6 HSE - Zambezi Silver
SA - 07 VW Golf TDI - White - Sold!
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| 29th Apr 2007 11:44 am |
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CFB
Member Since: 02 Dec 2005
Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
Posts: 6100
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I ran AT2's on my old D2, they are brilliant. Quiet on road and superb off, wouldn't hesitate fitting them again. 2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
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| 29th Apr 2007 1:27 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3656
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 your sig strip says no LR for now, what happened to the FL2 CFB 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 29th Apr 2007 1:31 pm |
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Gurvan
Member Since: 02 Jan 2005
Location: Germany... Not far from both the US and Hard German rock...
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Problem is that the MTR, if I am not mistaken are available ONLY in 19" whereas the AT2 are available ONLY in 18" or 17"... Thus, if you don't want to change the wheels, you have to choose according to what is available in the size you need...  Georgia On My Mind...
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| 29th Apr 2007 2:27 pm |
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CFB
Member Since: 02 Dec 2005
Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
Posts: 6100
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WOODY179 wrote: your sig strip says no LR for now, what happened to the FL2 CFB
Don't even go there, faulty clutch hydraulics, faulty electrics, a host of other niggles and finally rejected  2020 BMW X1 18d XDrive X-Line Auto
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| 29th Apr 2007 6:27 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3656
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sorry to hear that CFB, hope you get another LR soon. 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 29th Apr 2007 6:31 pm |
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DaveT
Member Since: 01 Aug 2005
Location: Cornwall
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I've done about 2k on 18" AT2's now (pics in gallery) and so far:
Dry road: little difference from Wranglers or Scorpions. I'd say they handle similarly to OE tyres that are nearly knackered, ie a little bit noisier (say about 10%, but not always noticeable) and just a tiny bit less sure footed.
Wet road: well, it hasn't really rained, but on 'mildly moist' roundabouts theyre a bit squirmier, and I reckon if you were silly you could get DSC annoyed.
Stony tracks: Lovely. You don't need to drive like you're paranoid of puncturing all the time.
Mud, rocks etc... Haven't had the chance yet
Roll on 12th May - Wild Wales LROAC
Fuel consumption: I can still average 30mpg, but there is a noticeable drain on power, so there must be a fuel penalty.
If I were only going to run one set of tyres, it'd be these for the 18" wheels.
But I'm not, so it'll be AT2's for off road, 19" wranglers on road.
Dave Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
SIII Lightweight - neglected & rusting. Bulkhead, A panels, vent panel & outriggers now disintegrated - Next years project!
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| 29th Apr 2007 7:38 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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Dave, what's your secret? (MPG). My MPG has dropped from 27-28 to around 25 since fitting the AT2s. Still think they are the biz and won't be changing them, but would always be happier to use a little less juice.
One thing I have noticed is that they must have a slightly greater circumference than the Scorpions, as I now catch the PTI stub on the underside of the barrier at my local Waitrose whereas before I passed under it with perhaps 1/2" to spare. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 30th Apr 2007 10:08 am |
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bkehoe
Member Since: 24 Feb 2006
Location: Wexford
Posts: 1481
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Getting mine on this afternoon. 
ND, maybe thats more a result of the higher pressure you're running them at and the fact they're new and haven't worn any yet? IE - 05 D3 TDV6 HSE - Zambezi Silver
SA - 07 VW Golf TDI - White - Sold!
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| 30th Apr 2007 11:07 am |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
Posts: 19689
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Doh! Hadn't thought of that...... Running them at 35f/38r at the moment and seeing almost identical fuel economy but the tyres are holding stones rather than releasing them as the tyre isn't flexing enough, so back to 33/36 it is. I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 30th Apr 2007 11:26 am |
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DaveT
Member Since: 01 Aug 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2578
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Ah, the secret to phenomenal fuel economy 
I'm lucky that my 28m each way daily commute is on relatively flat A road with steadily moving (50mph ish) traffic - ie perfect for economy.
Perhaps someone like TFC can shed some light here ... does the ECU 'adapt' and learn to use less fuel if you consistently drive gently??
going by the computer (currently 29.5mpg, reset 300m ago) I'd say I'm about 1mpg down since the AT2's were fitted - ie not enough to worry about.
The real problem here is that my journey is so boring  that I have to fill my time with mental arithmetic of fuel consumption / range / fuel light roullette etc. ... ... I need a life!! (or at least to move office). Long succession of Disco's since 2001...
SIII Lightweight - neglected & rusting. Bulkhead, A panels, vent panel & outriggers now disintegrated - Next years project!
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| 30th Apr 2007 9:58 pm |
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bkehoe
Member Since: 24 Feb 2006
Location: Wexford
Posts: 1481
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Fitted now, and just driven 70 miles home. Definatly noisier - though it seemed to be less aparrant by the time I was getting home, so either I'm getting used to it, or the tyres are bedding in.
MPG down. 28.8MPG on a journey that I would have expected to see around 30, possibly 31 on. Might improve slightly as they bed in.
Don't ask me what the pressures are - just told the tyre place what they should be but I'll be checking them tomorrow. IE - 05 D3 TDV6 HSE - Zambezi Silver
SA - 07 VW Golf TDI - White - Sold!
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| 30th Apr 2007 10:49 pm |
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