Member Since: 13 Sep 2009
Location: High Wycombe
Posts: 113
Vehicle Excise Duty
What is the opinion of all on what will happen to VED in this years Budget?
So many small cars are now in the zero or low tax bands there must be a big impact on the duty income.
Will the Chancellor reduce CO2 levels to gain tax as well as rtaise the rates.
LR have made the 14my discovery go into the £280 band rather than £490 a year, but could it revert after the Budget?
It will be very interesting, what happends, but then weare only 12 monthsfrom an election raising VED in any great way would not be a vote catcher.
One day they will do away with VED and add it to the fuel, they are doing away with the Tax Disc in October to save money, what next?Rodey L
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9th Jan 2014 11:57 am
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8156
If the reason for proposed 60mph restriction on the M1 is to reduce emissions and VED is calculated on emissions then we who pay VED on our vehicles should pay less VED
Grand son has just clocked up 90,000 miles in the last year in his company car that VED I costs £0 now who is creating pollution? I have had the pleasure of owning and maintaining a private road and know 5 years ago one pothole cannot be filled in for less than £200, on that assumption the minimum VED should be £200, even then it is a bargain to consider you can travel on thousands of miles of roads so cheaply.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
9th Jan 2014 1:02 pm
Bigcol66
Member Since: 28 Jul 2010
Location: Welshpool, Powys
Posts: 775
What about all the foreign lorries on the roads they don't pay any VED do they?
9th Jan 2014 1:45 pm
maplecottage
Member Since: 01 Feb 2011
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3171
Just done mine - £280
9th Jan 2014 2:32 pm
Dusty
Member Since: 23 Sep 2013
Location: London
Posts: 1022
If your Discovery costs £120 to fill up, the government is all ready taking approx £70 in vat and duty, and will also be taking a tidy sum from the bit that's left over from the people making money producing it. On that basis every car should be zero rated and every road should be billiard table smooth!!
Who's ever in power, Blue,Red or Yellow, the motorist has always been a cash cow and always will be.Discovery 4 HSE
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9th Jan 2014 3:06 pm
armalites
Member Since: 17 Aug 2013
Location: Herefordshire
Posts: 1918
I can understand why people moan when the roads are in a bad state but the road tax on pre March 06 D3 is just over £5 a week.
It's not a big deal really when you compare that to a pack of fags or a bottle of wine.
It just seems worse because you have to pay it in one go.
9th Jan 2014 3:22 pm
MarkOne
Member Since: 23 Jul 2011
Location: County Antrim
Posts: 3345
It's still cheap check out what they pay in the Republic of Ireland it would make you cry, think the last time i looked the discovery was about €2200 a year.
9th Jan 2014 3:30 pm
nigel207
Member Since: 26 Mar 2009
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 1351
armalites wrote:
I can understand why people moan when the roads are in a bad state but the road tax on pre March 06 D3 is just over £5 a week.
It's not a big deal really when you compare that to a pack of fags or a bottle of wine.
It just seems worse because you have to pay it in one go.
Except that "fags or a bottle of wine" are purely optional. Sadly, for most (unless you're a politician with a chauffeur and can claim (fiddle?) expenses) running a car of some description isn't, but I know what you're saying.
We have the D4 which costs a lot in V.E.D. and a Mini that's zero rated, so I suppose you could argue that one balances the other. However, with the number of miles I do in the D4 compared to a "rep" in his/her low rated company car (which will no doubt kick out far more CO2 than mine over a year), the V.E.D rate per mile is nothing short of being extortionate.
Up the revolution!
9th Jan 2014 3:39 pm
armalites
Member Since: 17 Aug 2013
Location: Herefordshire
Posts: 1918
A D4 is just as optional.There are very few if any people who could argue that a D4 is essential.That is my point, I think sometimes people don't look at the bigger picture.
On a cost per mile any big 4x4 is expensive
When I lived in Wokingham I watched a woman moaning about the cost of a £1 parking ticket at Dinton pastures and then calmly walking back and putting said ticket in £40K 5 Series BMW.
9th Jan 2014 7:18 pm
chopcat
Member Since: 08 Apr 2013
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 478
older cars, of course, are a better bet when it comes to VED.
It's just they can be quite expensive to run........
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9th Jan 2014 7:58 pm
Popelka
Member Since: 31 May 2008
Location: Praha (Prague)
Posts: 2430
Bigcol66 wrote:
What about all the foreign lorries on the roads they don't pay any VED do they?
And do you pay other countries equivalent when you visit that country???
actually most trucks carry tags that are picked up by sensors and automatically charged for motorway use!Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!
9th Jan 2014 9:35 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8156
To get into Switzerland you not only have to pay a minimum of their yearly road tax, if you have a trailer of any sort you have to pay the same for that. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
9th Jan 2014 10:41 pm
chopcat
Member Since: 08 Apr 2013
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 478
Popelka wrote:
Bigcol66 wrote:
What about all the foreign lorries on the roads they don't pay any VED do they?
And do you pay other countries equivalent when you visit that country???
actually most trucks carry tags that are picked up by sensors and automatically charged for motorway use!
Yes. But only because other countries charge for some of their VED in a different way. ie: tolls in france.
Ccmay the odds be ever in your favor
9th Jan 2014 11:19 pm
dantheman
Member Since: 12 Mar 2010
Location: Essex
Posts: 1728
armalites wrote:
I can understand why people moan when the roads are in a bad state but the road tax on pre March 06 D3 is just over £5 a week.
And is twice that on one registered after that. Clearly the VED actually has diddly squat to do with emissions and the green issue is all smoke. How they think that 2 identical vehicles producing the same co2 can have a different VED is fair is beyond me.
All the PLG cars around could have a higher co2 than a later disco but pay shed loads less.
Put it on fuel and then everyone pays for the co2 they produce. Its not rocket science!!
9th Jan 2014 11:44 pm
Nick H
Member Since: 25 Feb 2013
Location: Southampton
Posts: 659
I don't believe VED goes anywhere near road maintainance budgets directly, it's just another tax to go into the pot.
I'm a fan of adding it to fuel, the more you use the more you pay. I had a car that did 500 miles a year max but I still paid over £200 for VED. I know it was my choice but it's clearly not linked to road use.
Petrol companies know exactly how much fuel they've sold so it would be easy for the Government to recover this and it would stop the people that don't pay as they would have no choice.
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now who is creating pollution? I have had the pleasure of owning and maintaining a private road and know 5 years ago one pothole cannot be filled in for less than £200, on that assumption the minimum VED should be £200, even then it is a bargain to consider you can travel on thousands of miles of roads so cheaply.
