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why not just keep it simple
I know we have to have progression and development, otherwise we'd still have candles and not light bulbs, but what was wrong with having a dipstick to check the friggin oil level?
Now, it has to be warmed up, then left to stand to 10 mins, and then via some electrickey, you can check the oil level from the drivers seat. If you try just before 10 mins it says off and come back later (or some other stupid f'in message).
Gadgets for gadgets sake!!
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16th Nov 2013 2:11 pm
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16th Nov 2013 2:19 pm
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Its a brilliant excuse at your weekly shop Peter
16th Nov 2013 2:23 pm
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I just check it before starting.
Not sure all that warm oil stuff makes any difference to the reported level.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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From 15 deg C to 80 deg C the olie will increase almost 6% in volume.
Depending on the shape of the sump, this can have quite an effect on the level!
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16th Nov 2013 3:10 pm
mse
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Dipstick thing has been discussed - apparently dipsticks aren't as good and are prone to leaking etc hence they are removed - there might be a thread on here about it
16th Nov 2013 11:22 pm
crwoody
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Surely if the car is so smart, it should be able to tell what the oil temp is and how long it's been standing and compensate accordingly.
All seems a bit OTT to me Clive
16th Nov 2013 11:28 pm
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I am sure in a few years time there will be posts on here on 'how do I replace my oil level sensor' IMHO stupid to replace a simple failsafe dipstick with something so complexClub Narpy Torch
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17th Nov 2013 8:18 am
al cope
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the only think wrong with an LR dipstick was those stupid balls on the wire to show the level.
Just keep it simple, My missus's suzuki dipstick is flat and has two holes, one the the low level, one for the full - nice and simple (and other have two lines - its doesnt need more than that)
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17th Nov 2013 12:30 pm
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I can check the oil level from cold. However when I use the car I need to wait at least 10m before having a reading.
Is the way to read the oil level is somehow different from Petrol to Diesel?
17th Nov 2013 12:59 pm
Robbie
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al cope wrote:
the only think wrong with an LR dipstick was those stupid balls on the wire to show the level.
The pain-in-the- dipstick ball did not last long on my D3 - I melted it off after getting frustrated with it. I'm sure I was not the only one to do this as the dipstick was far easer to use without it.
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Doesn't no dipstick mean no means of sucking or the old oil for a service? Maybe a little silver lining in the cloud.
17th Nov 2013 1:05 pm
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I've never used it there is a dedicated suck tube on the D4 that goes to the very bottom of the sump. There is a bespoke LR adaptor for dealers so that they can suck, filter change and fill without the technician moving his feet.
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Apparently the lack of dipstick enables the engine to be better sealed for emissions etc
17th Nov 2013 3:53 pm
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Our audi a5 has no dip stick, like you say, run engine, must be warm, then it has to settle for 10 mins, then you can check, put in some oil la la la, its so frustrating!
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off and come back later (or some other stupid f'in message).
