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RRS bushes
Will RRS bushes fit in a standard D3 front arm as a direct replacement? - ie AdvancedFactors,
3401701 FRONT LOWER ARM REAR BUSH OE LEMFORDER RBX500291
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It goes where others don't.
18th Dec 2013 11:29 pm
chalky
Member Since: 22 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
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I haven't got a clue ?
But having just put RRS arms on the front of a D3 with all associated new bits it's much stiffer than before as you might expect !
What you might not expect is the resulting new front end now much stiffer highlighting the fact that the back is 6 years and got 93K in them making wet greasy winter roundabouts very interesting, I'm not talking 4 wheel drift either it's more Scandinavian flick as the back end steps out too quick for the gizmos to capture
Be careful, I'm not insinuating that you can't drive I'm just giving you my recent feedback, front & rears obviously work better all changed at the same time for either standard or RRS jobbies but a taught front and saggy rear isn't a good combo.Only dead fish go with the Flow !
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19th Dec 2013 12:58 am
Disco_Mikey
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Re: RRS bushes
M3DPO wrote:
Will RRS bushes fit in a standard D3 front arm as a direct replacement? - ie AdvancedFactors,
3401701 FRONT LOWER ARM REAR BUSH OE LEMFORDER RBX500291
3401601 FRONT LOWER SUSPENSION ARM FRONT BUSH OE LEMFORDER
Yes, they do
I have done exactly that in my own D3. Straight swap.
Never noticed anything that Chalky is talking about though. Mine drives lovely on themMy D3 Build Thread
Putting a D4 ARB and bushes on the rear is supposed to tighten the back end up nicely.
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19th Dec 2013 8:29 am
M3DPO
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Thanks for the replies guys, another order for Advanced Factors after Christmas.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
19th Dec 2013 9:10 am
A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
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I have RRS rear uppers on mine, along with new genuine ARB bushes all round.
Haven't experienced the effects your having.
Time to sort out the back of it then. In loving memory of FA54WSK.
Rest well old friend, your work is done.
19th Dec 2013 9:11 am
chalky
Member Since: 22 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
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A.J.M.
Have you had the front done in RRS or the rear ?
It's the Front "lowers" on mine that have highlighted the fact that my rears "uppers" are tired "I think" ?
Not only that but when straight lining or a gentle bend its got a tendancy to wander at the back almost like its got rear wheel steering
Either that or the wheels are comming off ?Only dead fish go with the Flow !
19th Dec 2013 9:37 am
Gareth Site Moderator
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Are you sure your tyres are all ok? Might be worth have a very close look at all the suspension components in case something has broken.
19th Dec 2013 9:42 am
chalky
Member Since: 22 Aug 2008
Location: Yorkshire
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Gareth
All is OK, the rear "uppers" came up as an advisory on the MOT and I very nearly had them done any way but as I was replacing the front end almost complete suspension wise I thought I would leave it while next MOT ? And just had the rear ARB bushes replaced as it had been knocking from the back.
I had all the work done at GOG in Leeds and they have been spot on !
Brian is a very helpful chap and certainly knows his stuff !
In fact he did advise me that the rear might be a little wavy compared to the front.
I've got to admit I noticed it straight away, it took a bit of rain on a dirty road dropping on to a roundabout to highlight the oversteer issue though,
To me it makes perfect sense that a very harsh front end would highlight weaknesses in the rest of the drivetrain? A bit like putting V8 rear brakes on and not the fronts ?
But maybe that's just me ? I also spend 95% of my driving in cars less than 6 Months old so I can feel how different a Manwell D3 is to a high end new car.
One other thing to take into account I don't think pressing harder Bushes in 7 year old arms will be as taught as new arms ? And the arms off a RRS are slightly different any way, but my front end is pretty firm now !
So much that when traveling on Mtwys and going over a bridge I can feel the gap in the bridge that's left for expansion, maybe its just mine though !Only dead fish go with the Flow !
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19th Dec 2013 10:38 am
A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
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Rear uppers are RRS.
front upper and lowers and rear lowers along with ARB bushes are all D3.
All have been changed this year, everything bar the front lowers is genuine LR and they are under 8 weeks old.
I would be checking the tyres, the wheel alignment and the back uppers.
Jack a wheel up, support with an axel stand and give the wheel a shake, if the top of the wheel can move in/out, you need new upper bushes.
They are a to remove, so DM cut mine out, i got new bolts for the hubs and new hub bushes as mine were also shot and rusted in place.In loving memory of FA54WSK.
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to remove, so DM cut mine out, i got new bolts for the hubs and new hub bushes as mine were also shot and rusted in place.
