Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Munster
Posts: 1509
If I could afford one I’d have a D5 in a heartbeat, no question of looking at any thing else. I have a Silver D3 and came across a D4 and a D5 in convoy at the weekend. D4 looks dated beside the D5, it looked in silver with tinted windows.
1st Nov 2017 1:22 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
The D5 is without doubt a good bit of kit, I enjoy driving mines, but, and this is a big but, it’s punching above it’s weight in terms of price and in some areas build quality, something that LR can’t seem to improve.
I paid £125 to get the linear aluminium trim, rather than the standard piano black, it’s cheap plastic that neither looks or feels like aluminium. It looks like it cost LR a £5. The dash itself feels solid but there are lot of areas of cheap plastics that wouldn’t look out of place on something made in Japan.
My one so far has been free of electrical faults, but it’s another area where LR are far behind the competition, LR are full of grand ideas but fail to make them work in reality, Incontrol Pro being the big one, it’s been a pig and a constant source of complaints from owners on all the JLR cars it’s fitted to. Mine has the standard system which isn’t market leading but it works though has been discontinued for 18MY in favour of the Incontrol Pro system.
IMO overall quality was better on my 3 FL2s at a fraction of the cost.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
1st Nov 2017 1:27 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23866
Erea wrote:
If I could afford one I’d have a D5 in a heartbeat, no question of looking at any thing else. I have a Silver D3 and came across a D4 and a D5 in convoy at the weekend. D4 looks dated beside the D5, it looked in silver with tinted windows.
Side by side I still prefer the shape and styling of the D3/4 to that of the D5. The original D3 was for me the pinnacle of classic large 4X4 design. Perfect combination of utility/practicality and comfort, in my opinion.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
1st Nov 2017 1:38 pm
Grianaig
Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Tyne and Wear
Posts: 1286
+1. 'Dated' is a pretty meaningless term. I think the D3/4 has a classic elegance. The D5 is a mess of disjointed styles, primarily one style for the rear that doesn't marry effectively with the front.2014 MY Discovery XS Indus Silver. Sadly gone. Second last LR of forty eight years continuous ownership.
1st Nov 2017 1:45 pm
muddywheels4wd
Member Since: 16 Dec 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 1681
For me the D2 was the pinnacle with rear mounted wheel - still miss my metropolis
It was also self repairing - switch off wait then on again - all problems solved Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
1st Nov 2017 2:15 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26779
8) That is gorgeous! I agree dated is not the correct description of a D3 or 4, they are iconic. The D5 is not. The Defender is dated And iconic!
Lets not forget that there are D5 owners without any problems at all. So the design works. It's the backup that's not there for when it doesn't work.
1st Nov 2017 2:25 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14487
Another dated but beautiful car..
D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
1st Nov 2017 2:28 pm
Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
Posts: 15496
Hasn't that always been the way with LR? If you've a good dealer who knows and cares you get a good view of the car, if you have one that is just looking for the next buck then you get a poor view.
I don't think any manufacturer can make cars completely perfect, but how they deal with it is what separates the wheat from the chaff.DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S
1st Nov 2017 2:32 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6272
That’s part of the reason I would find it difficult to move brands. I can’t fault the back up.
Also for the first 5 months mine was faultless, it’s the last 2 months that’s been a pain, just silly little things that takes the shine off it a bit.
We need some relationship counselling to get us through this rough patch and I’m sure we can carry on as before.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
1st Nov 2017 2:47 pm
highlands
Member Since: 10 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
Posts: 5107
Erea wrote:
Here is a journalist trying to give the car a brilliant review and the car/garage is doing its best to stop her. Surely the garage should have given them a like for like replacement if they realised she is doing a motor review?
Surely with a brand new c.£60k 7-seater car you shouldn't be given a (smaller than a Mini Countryman IIRC) RR Evoque, especially with the car off the road for weeks on end, whether you are doing a motor review or otherwise?Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
Grey 05 TDV6 HSE Auto (Gone)
54 TDV6 SE Man (killed by me )
1st Nov 2017 2:57 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26779
Maybe the journo is acting under stealth? To get the real picture?
It really does seem like a comms breakdown between the press dept and the dealer on the front line.
If one of my products was getting a public evaluation in the press, I would be all over it, ensuring the best of attention at all times.
1st Nov 2017 3:11 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
She could be stealth, but the number plate is clearly visible and Im sure land rover have people who watch the web for news good and bad.
1st Nov 2017 6:50 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26779
Yes, but they are obviously not doing anything about it.
1st Nov 2017 6:53 pm
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
If it was stealth then it would be a 17 plate as first deliveries were late March.
This car is a very early model and probably should have never been supplied as a review car without all the updates that came in the first couple of months after March.
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in silver with tinted windows.
Side by side I still prefer the shape and styling of the D3/4 to that of the D5. The original D3 was for me the pinnacle of classic large 4X4 design. Perfect combination of utility/practicality and comfort, in my opinion.
