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JackNorris
 


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Updated: TDV6 won’t start but Cranks

Hi

After some guidance.

Was out doing some very mild lanes, nothing at all complex.

Noticed the standard revs seemed a little high so thought I’d restart it.

Now it’s turning over but won’t fire.

Nothing much on the iid except this
P0341-00 (2D) Camshaft position sensor A - circuit range/performance (bank 1 or single sensor)

Flack did belts about 750 miles ago.

Is that error a red herring? Concerned it could be timing issue or something

Thanks
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Disco_Mikey
 


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I've only ever seen 2 causes of a camshaft sensor error before.

One was a wire a mouse had chewed through, the other a timing issue...
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So I guess the sensor could be red herring or you leaning towards timing mikey?
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Check your rear high pressure pump belt.
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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JackNorris wrote:
So I guess the sensor could be red herring or you leaning towards timing mikey?


I'd be pulling the belt cover off first, and checking the timing

While Mick has done hundreds, if not thousands of belts, part failure does happen and should be ruled out Thumbs Up
Of course, it could also be a cam/crank sensor correlation fault, and completely unrelated...
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Thanks Mikey. Appreciated

Not 100% sure what a correlation issue but off to google
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Stupidly had it recovered to home last night and now got to try move it on.
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get the belt cover off
  
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Are any of those parts under the aux belt got to go back in the same place or can I just remove them? Not timed are they ?

Wonder if I should have a peak before mucking about trying to get it to the garage

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aux belt has no teeth so not timed, just loosen all the nuts before you take the belt off.
  
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the pain is getting the fan off.

but have a look on the driver side at the belt cover.

See if something has tried to escape and left a hole or crack
  
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Belt cover looks ok Thumbs Up
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Update:

My Indie got her running Bow down

The timing was very very out! Had it retimed, we all stood expecting the worst and she fired.

Sounds pretty good actually.

My worry is it may happen again, so looking to move it on. I bought it to off road which obviously can stress the engine more than day to day driving.
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Any reason why the timing was out so far?
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That’s the part that isn’t showing any obvious reason.
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