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ilron
 


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Studded tires in Germany

I am planning a trip to the Alps this winter and plan to use the motorail from Hamburg in Germany to Austria, during my research I read somewhere that studded tires are not allowed in Germany.

Is that really true, or is it possible to pay a tax or something for passing through Germany with studded tires?
It feels like a waste to buy an extra set of winter tires without studs for only 5 hours driving in Germany.
  
Post #70782524th Oct 2010 5:57 pm
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That was my understanding, studded tyres were banned in Germany like in UK.

But I might be wrong. Sad
   
Post #70782724th Oct 2010 5:59 pm
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Studded tyres are banned for all except emergency vehicles in Germany and I'm not sure but I believe Austria is the same.

You'll need winter tyres, and potentially chains, if your going into the mountains in Germany
 LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.  
Post #70788924th Oct 2010 7:30 pm
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MrH wrote:
You'll need winter tyres and chains


And winter tyres are now compulsory by law from November 1st till March in Germany and Austria on all roads. For residents and tourists/visitors.

So if you are passing through Germany, the decision has basically been made for you.
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MartinR
 


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Unscrew all the studs at the border....? Whistle
  
Post #70789724th Oct 2010 7:34 pm
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ilron
 


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Typical, I put a fresh set of tires on last wednesday.

I think the LR dealer use winter tires without studs, he might be willing to switch for a week, worth a try..

What is up with banning studded tires anyways? The snow and ice get polished if no one drives with studs or chains and sipes are useless when there is nothing to grip on to.

Thanks for the help guys!
  
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Thought it was coz the roads are cleared Tarmac, not ice/compacted snow, so studs would chew them up.
   
Post #70796724th Oct 2010 9:26 pm
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You got it DSL. Most roads are cleared down to the tarmac so studs/spikes damage road surface. Any road not cleared to that level are generally passable with winter tyres or wintertyres+chains.
 LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.  
Post #70804125th Oct 2010 8:32 am
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Germany: Studded tires not allowed, snow tires mandatory if snow or ice on the road

Austria: Studded tires allowed from nov. 1st to may 31st on all wheels(trailer included) from nov.1st to apr. 15nt if snow or ice on the road

Switzerland: Studded tires allowed from oct. 24rd to april 30th(80 Km/h sticker mandatory) If your country allows longer you can use them, prohibited on the highways . Snow tires not mandatory, but if you cause traffic problem you can be fined.

This is the latest I got, but you probably better check with a local automobile club.
  
Post #70804625th Oct 2010 8:49 am
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ilron
 


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Thanks again for the info!

I'll just find a set of ordinary winter tires somewhere.
  
Post #70809325th Oct 2010 11:39 am
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May one ask what exactly is a "winter tyre" is, without wishing to appear stupid?
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Post #70809425th Oct 2010 11:43 am
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ilron
 


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Winter tires are tires with a softer rubber compound and a lot more sipes than you find on summer and all-year tires.
The negative sides with winter tires is a much shorter life time in warm weather, a longer braking distance on warm and dry roads and lower performance in standing water because of a thread pattern that is optimized for snow and slush instead of water.

Winter tires can often be bought with, or without studs.
Studded tires are better on ice, but they are pretty much the same on snow.

In other words, they are tires designed especially for areas with cold winters where summer and all-year tires have a too hard rubber compound to maintain a safe grip.


Studded winter tire:
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