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DSL
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As above, always keep tank topped up, heading down (well trying to head down) through central belt I never let it get below 3/4 full. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
   
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Keep the engine running and stick a couple of 20L jerry cans in the boot for emergencies in this weather Thumbs Up
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Apparently, a 4 cyl diesel engine (on average) will burn 0.3l of fuel per hour.

Can only assume that a 6 cyl will burn approx 50% more, so say 0.5 of a litre per hour. Not enough to worry about IMO Thumbs Up
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thats it then..........looks like the key is to make sure you have as much fuel in your tank in this weather in case the worst happens...... Thumbs Up

the egine could easily run 12hours on tick over if needed to keep warm................I hope I never need to experience it... Big Cry
  
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Ent wrote:
Moo wrote:
Is there a risk of bring Carbon Monoxide into the car if the FBH is running?


From a diesel? I don't think so.


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Copied from the HSE website

WHAT ARE DIESEL ENGINE EXHAUST EMISSIONS?
Diesel engine exhaust emissions (commonly known as 'diesel fumes') are a mixture of gases, vapours, liquid aerosols and substances made up of particles. They contain the products of combustion including:

carbon (soot);
nitrogen;
water;
carbon monoxide;
aldehydes;
nitrogen dioxide;
sulphur dioxide;
polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

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Apparently the heat from a (one) candle will keep the cabin warm enough to prevent it from freezing. Obviously one candle will not be enough for ice road truckers' environment but hey, you can always burn two at a time!

It will not be room temperature but all it takes is to throw a few candles in the glovebox, for the occasion you do run out of fuel. Better be safe than sorry.

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Just don't knock it over!! Shocked Thumbs Up
   
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If using candles, make sure that you have ventilation.

A closed cabin will, over time, cause the candle to produce more and more carbon monoxide.

People have died in snow caves through there being insufficient ventilation.

Best of Luck,
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good point Peter! Thumbs Up
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A closed cabin will, over time, cause the candle to produce more and more carbon monoxide.


I would have thought that a candle would burn up the oxygen and with people in the car as well there could be a build up of CO2, but not sure about carbon monoxide, eitherway, the window opened a small amount to let some fresh air in, would be sensible.

I think it is very easy to run a car for many hours with very little fuel consumption. I've done it several times myself while waiting at check points in the middle of a freezing Novemeber. I've run the car for several hours and not even noticed the fuel gauge change.
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I think it would rather product carbon dioxide but whether carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide, neither is healty.

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Bushwanderer wrote:
If using candles, make sure that you have ventilation.

A closed cabin will, over time, cause the candle to produce more and more carbon monoxide.

People have died in snow caves through there being insufficient ventilation.

Best of Luck,
Peter


DON'T DO IT! You will end up with a black interior. Friend of mine left a single candle in an outside toilet to stop it freezing overnight, when he went in the next morning it was completely black from soot. Really amazing to see.

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As the oxygen concentration decreases, the ratio of carbon monoxide (CO) to carbon dioxide increases. This can be fatal, as occupants breathe more and more CO, their alertness decreases, eventually slipping into a coma and death. As this happens, you paradoxically feel warmer as well as drowsier.

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Bushwanderer wrote:
...alertness decreases, eventually slipping into a coma and death...

Sounds a bit like being on a works conference call Sad

So, what's the recommended way of ventilating the car then? I have a plastic sheet in my winter kit I can trap over a door so that I can open a window a fraction without snow blowing in; is there a better way?
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This is where the window weathershields come in handy. Ideally, cross ventilation should be used.

Best Wishes,
Peter
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