Member Since: 30 Oct 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 114
Stuck In the Mud
Time for a bit of openess......Mrs Ian took the D3 o to a grassy field. She lost traction and stopped, attempted to pull away and all 4 wheels span! She tried all the settings from grass and mud/ruts in low and high ratio, plus command shift staarting in 3rd. All to no avail. The car just got deeper and deeper into the mud. She ended up being pulled of the mud by a wich from a tow truck which could park on tarmac. Other than not go on the grass, what should she and I have done differently. I talked her through what to do using the Bluetooth!
Help, please, with not too much tittering......D3 HSE, Stornoway grey, 2007 MY, side steps, privacy glass, door protection strips.
30th Jan 2007 2:21 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Ian,
Wet grass is probably the most difficult (apart from sheet ice) to gain grip on... especially if there is even a hint of a slope. Momentum is the only thing or very good mud terrain tyres. Take a look at the next tractor you see... even they get stuck at times
We've all done it at one time or another thinking the 4x4 will just magically find grip even when there is none.
Grass / Gravel / Snow is probably the best setting as it retards the throttle to avoid wheel spin.
Once stuck, its either a tow out job or if you are very gentle and very lucky you can sometimes rock the vehicle back and forth until you gain some grip to get up some momentum. If you are all 4 wheel spinning then you have moved far beyond any chance of rocking it out. Unless you are very lucky. And don't reverse backwards down a steep slope if your looking for fresh grass to find grip on... you'll end up at the bottom and in a mess.
Side slopes (and I mean from very gentle upwards) should be avoided if at all possible. You will have no sideways grip and a slide is very possible. Not good.
Its a tough one and is one surface I will avoid where possible.
30th Jan 2007 2:55 pm
Tommyknocker
Member Since: 14 Feb 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 68
Never let the missus drive it.06 Bonatti Grey HSE, Ebony Interior with Privacy Glass & Rubbing Strips.
30th Jan 2007 3:08 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23388
I dread that happening to me, as the owners of the old Defenders, Disco 1's & assorted Jap stuff, that are usually with me when I venture off-road, will show no mercy.
Out of interest, did she switch off the DSC? From what I've read here, that's a common mistake.
30th Jan 2007 3:25 pm
Ian 2206
Member Since: 30 Oct 2006
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 114
DSC did remain enabled throughout the debacle.....I never thought about disabling it, to be honest.D3 HSE, Stornoway grey, 2007 MY, side steps, privacy glass, door protection strips.
30th Jan 2007 3:36 pm
10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
bit of a faff but dropping tyre pressures by 2-3 psi will help enormously - but only before you get dug in... momentum and the ability to 'read' the ground are the biggest help
30th Jan 2007 3:38 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23388
Ian 2206 wrote:
DSC did remain enabled throughout the debacle.....I never thought about disabling it, to be honest.
From the little I know, that wouldn't have helped things. Sure more experienced folk will tell us why!
30th Jan 2007 4:05 pm
dldisco3
Member Since: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Hasselt
Posts: 191
DSC must be turned off in sand (that's why the Free2 has this setting as STANDARD in it's TR!), but on grass...???
30th Jan 2007 4:13 pm
sideview
Member Since: 02 Dec 2006
Location: in the valley
Posts: 1663
I'm still a rookie (& female) myself, but went on a lot of wet grasses on an off-road practice session. I had no difficulty getting through using the steps these guys have mentioned - set to Grass/Gravel/Snow, I use all terrain tires & lowered pressure, and kept at a steady momentum. I didn't turn off DSC but would have if it 'felt' like it should.I'm not so good at giving advice...may I offer you a sarcastic comment instead?
Member Since: 25 Nov 2005
Location: Kent - England
Posts: 203
I tried to climb a muddy(rutted) bank at the weekend to no avail.
I know I need to go on an offroad course because obviously I am a numpty but can one of you experienced folk point me in the right direction:
Low range selected and the second position on the TR, DSC was on, slow approach speed.
With hindsight perhaps a bit of speed would have probably sorted it out but I could have done it in my BM with enough speed?
Perhaps the site needs an 'Off Road' section with advice for idiots like me! Some say the glass is half full. Others that it is half empty. I say 'Are you drinking that?"
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30th Jan 2007 5:23 pm
mick
Member Since: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 2049
If you have snow chains stick them on you will get almost anywhere with them got mine from the ROOFBOX company.£180
Mick
30th Jan 2007 6:50 pm
captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095
mick wrote:
If you have snow chains stick them on you will get almost anywhere with them got mine from the ROOFBOX company.£180
Mick
This means kneeling down in the mud. Dirty clothes and interior...
I had a similar stuck situation with the nissan during the office lunch break....
Rather called the farmer nearby to pull me out with the tractor.
30th Jan 2007 8:48 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
Posts: 10438
Andy4467 wrote:
I tried to climb a muddy(rutted) bank at the weekend to no avail.
I know I need to go on an offroad course because obviously I am a numpty but can one of you experienced folk point me in the right direction:
Low range selected and the second position on the TR, DSC was on, slow approach speed.
With hindsight perhaps a bit of speed would have probably sorted it out but I could have done it in my BM with enough speed?
Perhaps the site needs an 'Off Road' section with advice for idiots like me!
Practice makes perfect, get your self to a track where you can play and get used to 4x4 driving.In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
30th Jan 2007 9:06 pm
Calcul@tor
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Middle England!
Posts: 810
I almost got shown up by a 2WD Skoda Estate once - one occasion when 2+ tonnes of D3 can be a disadvantage! D4 XS MY12 Galway
30th Jan 2007 9:22 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72799
AndrewS wrote:
Practice makes perfect, get your self to a track where you can play and get used to 4x4 driving.
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in the mud. Dirty clothes and interior...
