AM510657
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I was told by Land Rover technical service that I should install snow chains both on the front and the rear wheels. The manual says the chains should only be installed on the front wheels but by no means on the rear ones. Who’s right ? Discovery 3 (2007) HSE TDV6 Java Black/Ebony Black, Privacy glass, Manual gear box
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 27th Nov 2007 1:26 pm |
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Alex E
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| 27th Nov 2007 2:03 pm |
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AM510657
Member Since: 01 Dec 2006
Location: nr Paris
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Congratulations, but it does not help much… Discovery 3 (2007) HSE TDV6 Java Black/Ebony Black, Privacy glass, Manual gear box
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| 27th Nov 2007 2:12 pm |
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heapster
Member Since: 21 Sep 2007
Location: Sussex
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Manual = written by people who designed, built and tested the D3.
Dealers staff = YTS with 30 mins training on the computer.
I know which one I'd follow. They weren't trying to sell you two sets by any chance?
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| 27th Nov 2007 2:35 pm |
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AM510657
Member Since: 01 Dec 2006
Location: nr Paris
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You are probably right.
I was not surprise much because in many cases 4X4 vehicles (Toyota, Nissan, etc.) require for chains. The difference of Disco 3 is the Terrain Response and electronic traction control. That’s, I suppose, puts a new complexion on the matter.  Discovery 3 (2007) HSE TDV6 Java Black/Ebony Black, Privacy glass, Manual gear box
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| 27th Nov 2007 3:28 pm |
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axle
Member Since: 09 Jul 2007
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Definetly the front, they are there to help you brake and turn. Had a nice chat with a man in Tignes once who had them on the back wheels of his FFRR so he could out accelerate the lower orders. Wander over here to see how the other half live
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| 27th Nov 2007 5:16 pm |
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Bodsy
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All the D3's going to Croisiere in Jan will have Chains for front and Back (with spacers on the wheels to stop any potential rubbing........ Bodsys Brake Bible
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| 27th Nov 2007 11:19 pm |
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mick
Member Since: 21 Jan 2007
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used my chains on my VW T5 on sat to go to job in the middle of a field the customers disco 2 didnt make it though 
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| 27th Nov 2007 11:39 pm |
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bobbycrispbox
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Bodsy wrote:All the D3's going to Croisiere in Jan will have Chains for front and Back (with spacers on the wheels to stop any potential rubbing........
Does the manual mention anything about spacers? Could that be the reason LR don't want people putting chains on the rear?
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| 28th Nov 2007 12:26 am |
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opodden
Member Since: 29 Jun 2006
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I remember a case a couple of years ago, where a Freelander's transfer gearbox broke because the owner had different diameter tires front and rear. I'm a bit surprised that LR recommends increasing the diameter of the front wheels only. That cannot be good for the centre diff?
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| 1st Dec 2007 11:15 pm |
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90BHP
Member Since: 18 Oct 2006
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it's not like they will make a large difference to the diameter, especially when the tyres sit on the snow and the chains cut into the surface . . . .
I think it's more to do with making sure that there is clearance and that you don't just have them on the back. Steering is a major plus when fitted to the front wheels !! "To finish first, one first has to finish ...."
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| 1st Dec 2007 11:19 pm |
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simonsi
Member Since: 14 Oct 2007
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opodden wrote:I remember a case a couple of years ago, where a Freelander's transfer gearbox broke because the owner had different diameter tires front and rear. I'm a bit surprised that LR recommends increasing the diameter of the front wheels only. That cannot be good for the centre diff?
Hmmm, the Freelander (1 at least), had different gearing front and rear (even with the same size tyres), to achieve a basically fwd-type driving experience, this alone contributed to the unexpectedly high numbers of viscous coupling failures in the rear axle driveline so if the odd size tyres worsened the gearing difference I can believe it prompted a driveline issue. It wouldn´t be a transfer box as the Freebie didn´t have one but probably the VC unit or IRD (Intermediate Reduction Drive).
The D3 however has a proper diff between front and rear axles, the centre diff will "work" ie be providing a difference in axle speeds between front and rear whenever the vehicle isn´t travelling in a straight line on a flat road, under all other conditions the diff will be avoiding axle wind up. I can´t see the rotation caused by the minimal change in rolling diameter of one axle on snow being an issue, it would be an issue on a hard surface but also for other reasons I would think  Cheers
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| 1st Dec 2007 11:38 pm |
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espri
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On the LR Experience in Finland last year they used chains both front and rear on the D3 - I guess they should know! Spacers weren't mentioned at all but, then again, I didn't ask. I bought two sets for my car but I don't really anticipate using them. Other than off-road, I expect that one set would be sufficient in most cases (I'm only carrying one set around with me just now). It is, however, remarkable what you can go up and down with two sets on the Disco!
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| 4th Dec 2007 12:56 am |
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BLFarrar
Member Since: 02 Aug 2006
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knowledge of getting or using studded tyres fir the Disco 3
I had a set of Gislaveds for a Volvo some years ago... I thought the effect of these was awesome.
The studs set lasted two winter seasons. BREXIT - done properly.
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| 4th Dec 2007 1:07 am |
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espri
Member Since: 07 Nov 2005
Location: Tyrol, Austria
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Studded tyres are illegal in Germany (apart from areas near the Austrian border - I guess I could use them if I only drove south!). In Austria and Switzerland they are allowed for some winter months (with various restrictions). Are they legal in the UK?
Eric
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| 4th Dec 2007 11:44 am |
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