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Simpson preparation
I am planning to do the Simpson desert in my 8 year old D3 TDV6, having done approximately 98000KM. It has been well maintained, but given age etc I am looking for advice on what spares I should take on the trip. Also interested in any preparation tips/lists to help me with planning. Also, the inevitable if one gets a fatal fault in the middle of the desert - are there recovery options?
1st Dec 2014 9:36 am
motolite
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Hi, have you tried posting this on AULRO ? you'll get a better response
1st Dec 2014 8:52 pm
~Rich~
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I would recommend that you either have LLAMS or Rods as a must, that way you can keep the car up at off road height over 50kph. No bongs driving you crazy either!
Carry a couple of Jerry cans of Diesel as a minimum, or fit a LR tank and move your spare to a RWC. ( $3000 - $4500 cost!)
Are there recovery options? Yes - both Mt Dare and Birdsville Roadhouse have recovery vehicles.
Birdsville has a MAN truck - http://birdsvilleroadhouse.com.au/_blog/Th...irdsville/
I heard recovery cost can be up to $20,000 depending on where they have to recover you from.
Cheers Rich2014 SDV6 HSE White, LLAMS Height Controller, Tinted Glass, Tuff Ant Sliders and 18" steel wheels, Safari Snorkel, Rhino Rack Platform, ARB Air Compressor, Custom Drawer and storage unit -http://www.box.com/s/jem0ilac3cner2mexq64 UHF CB, 4x4 Intellegence RWC, 120ltr Long range tank, Rock Sliders and Compressor protection plate Beanie grill, De Tango.
1st Dec 2014 9:26 pm
Young
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Hi Rich,
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I will be travelling with a mate who has an Toyota FJ with all the mods you can imagine.
Just don't want to try and avoid a failure that can be avoided to stop me - experienced one trip back on a flatbed when it was a week old, but been good thus far. Was just interested in options should there be a show stopper.
Thinking of getting one of those 'emergency up' air kits if the compressor fails - did you have one?
Cheers Bruce
2nd Dec 2014 2:11 am
~Rich~
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I have the full emergency air kit fitted, if I had my time over I'd only get the small kit which you only fit in an emergency and carry that with me.
To me a Fault Code reader / clearer is also very important.2014 SDV6 HSE White, LLAMS Height Controller, Tinted Glass, Tuff Ant Sliders and 18" steel wheels, Safari Snorkel, Rhino Rack Platform, ARB Air Compressor, Custom Drawer and storage unit -http://www.box.com/s/jem0ilac3cner2mexq64 UHF CB, 4x4 Intellegence RWC, 120ltr Long range tank, Rock Sliders and Compressor protection plate Beanie grill, De Tango.
2nd Dec 2014 2:24 am
Young
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Thanks for the reply, Where can I buy a fault reader, and what do they cost?
2nd Dec 2014 3:46 am
~Rich~
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Many sponsors here on this site sell them, have a look through the sponsors links.
I bought a Faultmate FCR
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2nd Dec 2014 3:54 am
Young
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Thanks - appreciate the help
2nd Dec 2014 4:04 am
Robbie
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Diagnostic tools have moved on since the FCR and there are better options on the market.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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Do you have any recommendations on ones better than the FCR
2nd Dec 2014 9:42 am
garrycol
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Robbie wrote:
Diagnostic tools have moved on since the FCR and there are better options on the market.
Yes better but a lot more expensive. The FCR is good enough to read and clear.
2nd Dec 2014 10:10 am
Robbie
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Young wrote:
Do you have any recommendations on ones better than the FCR
Outside of specialist needs the core market is effectively split between the BBS Nanocom and the GAP IID Tool. Both are discussed regularly on the forum and both are being actively developed by their respective manufacturers.
GAP actually provides 2 consumer versions of the IID Tool, the original version and the Bluetooth version. Out of the 2 current products the Bluetooth version gets my vote (and my money) for ease of use and future growth but the original version is still a powerful tool and enjoys a refreshingly low price.
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garrycol wrote:
Robbie wrote:
Diagnostic tools have moved on since the FCR and there are better options on the market.
Yes better but a lot more expensive. The FCR is good enough to read and clear.
Hi Garry,
Read and Clear is pretty limited. Some diagnostics require live data as not all out of range inputs trigger fault codes. Other systems require calibration on fitting or require firmware flashing to recover. One could argue that knowing which height sensor needs replacing with no ability to fit and cal a new one would be rather frustrating.
Regarding price I can only talk UK prices and including tax and delivery the FCR is around £250 and the GAP IID Tool is about £270. The price difference is tiny whilst the capability difference is huge. I also know a number in Aus use the IID Tool to increase ride-height for higher-speed traversing of rutted tracks without the need for LLAMS or Rods.
If willing to spend a little more the BBS Nanocom is around £430 with the Gap BT IID Tool retailing at £384.
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And with the more advanced tools ( I would assume the Nanocom can do this also ) you may be able to get out of a bad situation.
For example, you have a hard fault that prevents the suspension from working (it may lower the vehicle to the bumpstops or lock it in standard height). With a more advanced tool, you can manually control the valves to raise the vehicle and ''turn off'' the suspension ECU. Unless there`s a leak, the vehicle height will be maintained. Of course, vital components need to be working (compressor...) in order to raise the vehicle manually.http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/
4th Dec 2014 5:13 pm
garrycol
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Robbie wrote:
garrycol wrote:
Robbie wrote:
Diagnostic tools have moved on since the FCR and there are better options on the market.
Yes better but a lot more expensive. The FCR is good enough to read and clear.
Hi Garry,
Read and Clear is pretty limited.
Yes you are quite right - but the topic is gear needed for the Simpson not the workshop. For sure if you need to go into systems in detail what you suggest is great but I have never needed that sort of detail - unless you have a dud car in the long run it is still cheaper to get settings changed at a dealer.
Certainly my FCR cost far less than the pricing you have indicated.
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