Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: In A World of My Own!
Posts: 2908
Heres the ideal solution -
I saw it here yesterday...
A D4 with a supercharged V8.. ?feature=sharedMust stop buying shiny toys....
8th Oct 2024 10:08 am
stephenw46
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1218
Well at 106k my14 plate D4 still does to me exactly the same as the day I bought it, yes I have had a few issues with it but then you do with most cars, but the intercooler went this year and the paint work needs tidying up, so I have looked around driven different models, and this is where I am right now D4 is in the paint shop having the noticeable bits done and then she’s going into the dealership for the intercooler cooler to be replaced, as I tried and failed due to my health, but even if the engine does go there are still choices, oval or the dealership, so calculations done if she costs me £25k worst case scenario what can I buy that I like and the answer is nothing. So good luck with your choice
8th Oct 2024 10:32 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14481
Went to see a 2016 fully loaded Landmark today. One previous owner, 95k on the clock.
Looked great but when I started getting up close and personal things started to feel odd . Can't put my finger on it but something felt out of place. My gut said walk away.
The other thing that suprised me was that it didnt excite me.
Maybe a D4 isnt for me?
I've got a couple of others to view,so we'll see, but driving two hours back in the Defender in Biblical rain was a good place to be and gave me time to think. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
8th Oct 2024 8:43 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8243
RogB wrote:
desv8 wrote:
IYou read a lot about snapped crankshaft issues and yet there are 000's that have no issues.
Are you just unlucky if the crankshaft snaps or is it inevitable in people's opinion.
I read a lot go just after belt change? Is it a possibility the belts are over tensioned
Just. Curious on opinions.
I think it does largely come down to luck, given the number of D4's sold the % that suffer crank failure seems very small.
Ive just got a 17 plate Disco Sport with the ingeniboom engine which so far is running fine at 80k miles, but my view now is the same as with the crankshafts. The % of failures compared to numbers of JLR cars sold with the same engine is low (all be it higher in numbers that the D4 possibly)
That formula doesn’t apply to the ingeniboom engine, from what I’ve read they will go BOOM before 100k miles guaranteed, never heard of one reaching 100k, yours maybe on its 3 engine! don’t push your luck get the timing chain changed at least or better still get rid, if the timing chain doesn’t snap the turbo will explode and right the engine off, £8k for a replacement engine, I am talking about the 2ltr version 3ltr seems slightly better.
Don’t believe me have a look on Facebook “ Disco Sport owners.”It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
9th Oct 2024 5:42 am
RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 1738
not on Facebook so unable to check that
I 100% get your point but saying its guaranteed to go boom before 100k is a bit misleading. Social Media is a bit like forums (probably worse to be fair to forums) in that people generally only post about things going wrong, but very few post about things going right.
Yes its a risk, but then its a risk buying a Ford Fiesta(most stolen car 2 years in a row) or buying a BMW with the 2.0D engine that also has timing chain issues but requires engine out to change it. Or buying a D4 with the risk of a snapped crank.2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
9th Oct 2024 7:04 am
The Glassman
Member Since: 16 Apr 2024
Location: Sunny Berkshire
Posts: 14
Thoughts of a D4 Newbie...
Now in month six of D4 ownership and really liking it. Had Freelander 2's - TD4 and an SD4 for the preceding 18 years (Only issue - in over 150k miles, a failed injector on the TD4).
When I mentioned making the change to the Service Manager at my local Indie, they said 'you're swapping the most reliable LR product ever made - for the second most'!
15 plate HSE Lux with 70k miles, FSH etc. Had them replace the front suspension arms, timing belts and centre prop shaft coupling. Inlet manifold looked sound. Replaced oil midway between services with 5w 40 Helix Ultra.
Just back from 5 days fishing on the Wye in deepest, wet, muddy Herefordshire. 4 anglers plus kit - and it performed beautifully. 30-35mpg on a run.
Pro's as compared to SD4 FL2: Lovely ride, very smooth and quiet on-road - so can hear the belting Meridian HIFi system. Lovely V6 sound under 'welly'.
Con's: Much higher servicing and maintenance costs, lower mpg in runaround driving. Insurance up £200 pa. £1.5k quote for the nest, 10-year full service!!
I only average 5k miles pa and just want to enjoy them, damn the expense!
The D4 is a brilliantly capable car - and a cave-on-wheels. Tows beautifully and is a near-limo on-road (when it's been cleaned)!
Make the most of driving while you can, before our new, 'water-melon' Government kills off any fun.
14th Oct 2024 4:06 pm
A.J.M
Member Since: 31 Oct 2009
Location: Carluke
Posts: 2856
When I finally threw in the towel for getting my D3 restored and brought home.
Getting a D4 was the logical choice but one I debated quite a bit over.
The issues of snapped cranks and the cost to get an engine sorted was my biggest fear.
Otherwise a D4 is just a D3 with some faults fixed, some new ones added and loads that are the same.
I got a 66 plate landmark with superb history and it’s likely a final batch car as the build plate says 16th July. 3k in and it’s a lovely car and I’m enjoying being back in a Disco.
I got over the crank by looking at how many of my friends had a D3 and did big mileages without issue.
My own getting 203,936 miles before getting scrapped. The engine is going to live on in another D3.
Then how many moved onto a D4 and again did big mileages without engine failure.
Only 1 friend had a D4 crank failure at 100kish, but thanks to a full dealer history it got a new engine with JLR paying 100%.In loving memory of FA54WSK.
Rest well old friend, your work is done.
17th Oct 2024 3:36 pm
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1257
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Can always go forthis if you dare?.
17th Oct 2024 6:21 pm
GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
Posts: 4696
Wow, what a rare thing that is. Reading the ad it says offers over what it cost so to those who say I’d buy one if they still made them now’s your chance
17th Oct 2024 6:34 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6768
fat bloke wrote:
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Can always go forthis if you dare?.
Does it come with a set of new engines and turbos or what?
17th Oct 2024 6:43 pm
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1257
Forgot to just over 2k miles some reason couldn't post link it's a private sale on trader.
Wonder if the belts have been done on it?.
17th Oct 2024 6:57 pm
WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3655
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2...mp;fromsra1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
17th Oct 2024 7:23 pm
disco chris
Member Since: 25 Apr 2022
Location: London
Posts: 292
£80k
Did someone buy that thing and just forget to use it? Or did someone genuinely buy it as a collectable??
Still, don't ask don't get I suppose, there might be someone out there rich and crazy enough to pay that much for an as-new Disco...
17th Oct 2024 8:28 pm
GLYNNE
Member Since: 06 Oct 2006
Location: KENT
Posts: 4696
If you read the ad it’s not £80K
It’s to attract people into looking. It says offers over new price
So I guess somewhere close to what they were would buy it
17th Oct 2024 10:53 pm
paul n
Member Since: 15 Jun 2021
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 57
I had the same conundrum as you and ended up with a very nice incredibly clean Jap import 5.0 for closer to 20k than 30k! I will post a longer post about it soon but it's the best "car" decision i have ever made, the car is incredible!
Jap import so the underneath is incredibly clean (no rust at all) the engine is just so much smoother and quieter than the deasil. I much prefer having a proper gear stick in the 6 speed to the rotory dial in the 8 speed (i had a L322 8 speed before this) obviously 375bhp is nicer than 250 lol!
the engine is a euro 4 petrol so it is ULEZ compliant and the tax is cheaper as it is an import, insurnace for me is also £200 cheaper (don't know why!)
MPG is about 5 mpg worse than my old Disco 3 so probably 8-10 worse than a 2016 disco 4. it does 24 on a run and 20 all around. It is not great in town thou!
things i don't have to worry about include
rust
crank failure
AD blue
EGR valve
DPF
oil dilution
Turbo issues
other dirty deasil related problems lol!
things i have to sorry about....
timing chain but that is a once every 100k miles issue and mine is fine right now
MPG but i use my wifes EV for a lot of short journeys to keep the miles off of it
final thing is that depreciation should be less as these are so rare and i do think they will become collectable as the disco 4 shape is just a classic and combine that with a 5.0 V8 really is quite a combo!
pm me if you want any more info. I was this close to buying a euro 6 deasil then i test drove a V8!
Cheers Paul
Moo wrote:
Nasher wrote:
Naki Blake wrote:
Buy a petrol D4 (Jap import).
Not Euro 6 I expect.
It's actually to do with age, the youngest is 12 years old, the gearbox - its 6 speed and to some extent the difference in cost. I can get a very nice low mileage HSE Lux with full history for under £20k where as a Jap V8 is nearly £30k. Even if I need a new engine I'm still there or thee about.
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. Can't put my finger on it but something felt out of place. My gut said walk away. 
