Member Since: 07 Oct 2014
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 99
Has anyone else fitted these?
I need to replace my Pirelli Scorpion ATRs (which I love!) but since the new one came out, I cant find any anywhere for any sensible price so am looking at the Dueler AT001, Falken
AT3WA, or Vredestein Quatrac 5.
I think the new Scorpion AT + is too much off-road for me; ideally I'm looking for an 80/20 road/off-road split...
Has anyone had experience of the above three tyres?
gstuart wrote:
This is one I’ve also been looking at , alas looks like the biggest is 18 inch
Bridgestone Dueler A/T 001 is a versatile all terrain tyre that balances on-road and off-road characteristics for a comfortable journey.
Keep going in all conditions, regardless of terrain
Three-Peak Mountain Snowflake certified for its winter performance
Balances on-road and off-road traits for safety and comfort
For a 255/60 R18 / 112T / NOISE LEVEL 73 / WET GRIP C / FUEL C / approx £106.00
Below are Dueler A/T 001 tyre reviews and ratings
Rated 8.8 out of 10 based on 18 customer reviews.
Grip in the dry 9
Grip in the wet 9
Steering responsiveness 9
Cornering Stability 9
Resistance to Aquaplaning 10
Tread wear versus mileage 9
Ride comfort and smoothness 9
Noise level 8
Quality versus price 9
General appearance / tread pattern 9
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13th Dec 2020 11:24 am
chrisoverson
Member Since: 10 Dec 2020
Location: Bideford
Posts: 29
Hi chaps, looking for advice concerning the Pirelli AT+
How are they on-road, especially in the wet? I'm considering buying a full set of these in the next few weeks for our newly acquired D3.
The ratings would suggest that they're awful in the wet, but all the reviews I read say they're good... bit torn.
I'll be doing mostly on-road miles unless I'm specifically off-road to play, but also want good snow/ice performance and the 3PMSF for occasional last minute weekend trips to the alps and the like
My thoughts were that here in the south-west of England, I'm more likely to encounter wet and flooded roads than snowwy ones.
I'm looking to keep them on all year round as I can justify either one really good set of tyres, or two cheap/part-worn ones.
Thanks!
31st Dec 2020 9:33 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13077
I have the Pirelli AT+ on my RRS SDV6 and they're fine on road in the wet. If you're mostly on road, I'd say the Grabber AT3 is better although both get a bit slippy in the wet when worn to 4mm although the AT+ is slightly better. The AT3 slightly better when new/only partially worn.. I've had both and think they're both very good tyres. They're AT so not as good on road as a pure road tyre, but if you remember that and account for it, they're both very good tyres. AT3 good in snow. Haven't tried the AT+ in snow but I'd expect them to perform well enough.
Oh, and I've used both all year round and both are fine in summer too.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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31st Dec 2020 9:49 pm
chrisoverson
Member Since: 10 Dec 2020
Location: Bideford
Posts: 29
Thanks
I don't drive like a maniac so hopefully I won't be pushing it to the limits anyway, I'm hoping that a brand new set of these will perform better than my mismatched and worn aging tyres in any case. I'm normally just low mileage round town then lots of miles on big trips a couple of times a year - Norway last time.
The 3PMSF is a must for me, I think I'll give these a go and see how we get on
31st Dec 2020 9:52 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13077
I do sometimes release the inner hot hatch kid and the AT+ does respond. It will wear the shoulders if you lean on them too hard, but then they're AT not sports tyres so that's fair enough. Other than that, they're very good tyres.
I replaced the front pair recently and the price had gone up by about £30 so expect a decent bill for 4.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
31st Dec 2020 9:57 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6563
chrisoverson wrote:
Hi chaps, looking for advice concerning the Pirelli AT+
How are they on-road, especially in the wet? I'm considering buying a full set of these in the next few weeks for our newly acquired D3.
The ratings would suggest that they're awful in the wet, but all the reviews I read say they're good... bit torn.
I'll be doing mostly on-road miles unless I'm specifically off-road to play, but also want good snow/ice performance and the 3PMSF for occasional last minute weekend trips to the alps and the like
My thoughts were that here in the south-west of England, I'm more likely to encounter wet and flooded roads than snowwy ones.
I'm looking to keep them on all year round as I can justify either one really good set of tyres, or two cheap/part-worn ones.
Thanks!
I’ve been driving AT+ since the summer. While the winter hasn’t been much to write about here in Helsinki there has been snow and ice. I decided to not change to studded tires this year and so far haven’t ended up in a ditch
All in all I do like them whether on highway (max 120 km/h), on a smaller trail through the forest. Haven’t ever been uncomfortable with them either and would buy again. Mine are 255/55R19.
31st Dec 2020 11:41 pm
JonC
Member Since: 18 Oct 2013
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 2
Re: Cooper zeon LTZ
Flapper wrote:
Surprised not to see Cooper Zeon LTZ' s on the list.
I have a set on my Disco and they are great, but they have disappeared off the planet cant find any anywhere at a reasonable cost did see some for £400 each!!!!!!
Im just replacing my second set of LTZ's and was wondering the same thing.
25th Jan 2021 11:58 am
Timmins_c
Member Since: 08 Sep 2020
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 85
255 55 19 GoodYear Duratracs £116.70 ea on Camskill - Real Bargain at the minute
25th Jan 2021 12:10 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13077
Re: Cooper zeon LTZ
JonC wrote:
Flapper wrote:
Surprised not to see Cooper Zeon LTZ' s on the list.
I have a set on my Disco and they are great, but they have disappeared off the planet cant find any anywhere at a reasonable cost did see some for £400 each!!!!!!
Im just replacing my second set of LTZ's and was wondering the same thing.
They're no longer showing on Cooper's UK website, although they are still on the US site. So likely the LTZ is now an obsolete tyre in the UK. Probably the A/T3 Sport replaces it in the line up.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
25th Jan 2021 12:34 pm
JonC
Member Since: 18 Oct 2013
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 2
Shame the Cooper Zeon LTZ are no longer available here, been a good tyre. If BFG A/T where available in a 19" there would be no decision, best tyre I had on other vehicles. Decided to try the Cooper Discoverer AT3 Sport 2 this time round.
25th Jan 2021 4:00 pm
G3Z
Member Since: 16 Dec 2018
Location: South Wales
Posts: 537
I’ve been running Cooper Discoverer AT3 Sports for a while now. I’ve now put the new AT3 Sport 2 on today.Defender 110 2.4 TDCi Utility Station Wagon.
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25th Jan 2021 8:02 pm
Froogle-Yorkshireman
Member Since: 28 Oct 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 297
Has anyone got any photos of Cooper AT3 Sport 2 fitted to a D4?
26th Jan 2021 12:13 am
Marky B
Member Since: 06 Mar 2021
Location: Oman
Posts: 2
Hi all, Have myself a LR3 out in the middle east, and tyres in the 255/55/19 are, basically non existent for A/T.
Are 255/60R19 suitable enough with the same tyres listed in this post? loads/performances etc. I've found a few google searches saying that going to the 60 won't cause any suspension/rubbing issues, but found some weird stuff about the larger profile heaving weaker sidewalls and so not as suitable especially off road. (highway, with sand and rock as the off roading, potentially some through water bits)
Also, anyone fitted 255/60R19 and have a full size underslung spare? any issues in that department?
6th Mar 2021 1:01 pm
robsta
Member Since: 19 Mar 2011
Location: La Lucia, Durban
Posts: 52
Hi guys...
Can anyone give some more feedback on the Cooper AT3 Sport2's? Please. I have the Cooper ATT, been great, but need to replace soon, and I think the Sport 2 may be the better tyre?
Thanks
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