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Robbie's Guide To ZF8 Auto Transmission Oil Change
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marco 110
 


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Hello.
Found this : https://en.yacco.com/product/308-fr-atf-x-fe/

Seems ok ?!
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Not that I'm doing mine for a while, but this seems a pretty good deal for anyone planning to do it soon.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-Jaguar-Auto...Sw6DtYSVJ2
  
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Just about to change the oil on my 8 speed box. Can anyone who has done it themselves please advise me on whether or not ramps or axle stands are necessary. I've got no feel for how much room is underneath even in offroad height setting. I do not have ramps....yet.

What about if I just lifted the front a little? Would that make the gearbox oil trickle the wrong way?

Thanks
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Personally I would never recommend working under the vehicle without the correct support. I used heavy duty axle stands and a trolley jack as a backup. You are right under the middle of the vehicle with the engine running for some of it and I would be scared to do that without proper support.
 
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I raised mine to off road height, and put some stands below the chassis to catch it, just in case. I found plenty of room to work, although I was lying on my back with the car close to me. Depends on your waist line I suppose!
  
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Thanks. I will put axle stands under as backup, but sounds as though offroad height is just enough to work with.
Dave
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D2 Td5 ES (Alive remapped...mmm) - sadly gone
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6 Months and 8000 miles down the road, and today I have done the next drain and refill. The stuff that came out was quite dark, but not as black as the original drop 6 months ago. Smelt absolutely like oil, so I think the Mannol oil has lasted well.

One tip I learnt over last time, plenty of rags to hand because no matter how careful you are, its messy.

Before I drained it, I plugged in the IID and drove up and down the local dual carriageway at decent speed until the temps had maxed. The transmission oil was at 78 degrees, the engine oil at 100, and the coolant at 90 when I got back, and dropped the oil.

This meant that after I had done the initial fill, and cycled the gears etc, it didn't take long to get it back up to 69 degrees to open the stat. It still took 4hrs to cool back down to 30 for the final check!

I weighed the oil that came out, and it was 3042g. There was minimal spillage, and I did leave it draining until nothing else would come out. According to my reckoning, that means the box might have been a bit low on oil?

What do you think Robbie?
  
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I have found a 5ltr garden pressure spray works well for putting in fresh transmission fluid cut back Lance put flexible hose after the tap. Very Happy
  
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I have a Sealey oil pump. It's great. The screw thread fits the top of the oil bottle, so no need to be transferring clean new oil into another container. Flexible hose, and an aluminium curved end that stays in the fill hole easily.

Takes about 20 pumps to dispense a litre bottle.
  
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Do you mean THIS one?
Its the only one I could find in the Sealey catalogue that came near your description.
  
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Yes that's the one Thumbs Up Works really well.

On another note, I did a recheck of the oil level this morning. The temps had dropped overnight and the gearbox oil was at 10 degrees this morning as measured on my IId device.

I started the engine, removed the fill plug and got about another half litre in before it started to trickle out. There is a fair amount of difference between the hot/cold level, and stresses the importance of accurately measuring the oil temperature during this whole procedure. I reckon my gearbox was slightly short of oil since my last change! Luckily there seems to be no ill effects, and it's still changing as smooth as it ever did.
  
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Gareth,

I can't remember the exact temperature range, but I thought the level had to be checked when the oil was at about 40'C - so if you put more in when it was at 10 its potentially overfull?
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Instructions say below 30 degrees and not to exceed 50 degrees.
  
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I bow to your better knowledge Gareth Thumbs Up

Though as an edit, I thought it was between 30 and 50'C Thumbs Up
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Well if it is, better too much than too little. Just come back from a decent run, and it's smooth as ever.
  
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