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DG
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The reality is slowly sinking in 
timesonline wrote:With regard to the tax on 4x4's, the fact is that it does not only affect these vehicles.
I have a Mini which is taxed at the same rate as a Land Rover. In other words, I will have to pay £400 in duty.
The tax was mooted as a way of getting back at the so called 'Chelsea tractor' brigade. This is clearly not the case.
However, this fact is lost in all the rhetoric that the Government have put out on this subject.
John, Newport, South Wales
21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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 22nd Mar 2007 12:50 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
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I just hope all the press and car mags start to jump on this - maybe some will even realise that modern 4x4's like the D3 are not evil.
Mind you, their bulk will always be a back up issue though 
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| 22nd Mar 2007 1:22 pm |
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randalls
Member Since: 02 Mar 2006
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'The tax was mooted as a way of getting back at the so called 'Chelsea tractor' brigade'
Now there is a clear indication of the media & government confusing the poor electorate. Using those nasty 4x4 owning people as 'folk devils' to get a nice 'trojan' tax hike through....oh dear wake up & smell the Tax hike Mr sporty car owner......   2007 TDV6 HSE 'Silver Lady'. With 'free' privacy glass LOL.
Taking the greenpi$$ is: Green taxing your citizens more & using some of the money to buy nukes.
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| 22nd Mar 2007 1:25 pm |
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bkehoe
Member Since: 25 Feb 2006
Location: Wexford
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No need to get too upset, look at the good side; you're still £300 better off than I am per year for road tax.  And we pay over 30% more for equivelent model cars over here (that's around £13k more for a D3 HSE). Sure the fuel is a bit cheaper here, but I'd need to do something like 300,000 miles before I'm better off overall! IE - 05 D3 TDV6 HSE - Zambezi Silver
SA - 07 VW Golf TDI - White - Sold!
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| 22nd Mar 2007 1:39 pm |
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oliver77
Member Since: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Mid Wales
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How much did the fall of Rover cost the UK??? When Land Rover and Jaguar go the same way with the idiots trying to run our country taxing them off the road who will pick up that bill.
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| 22nd Mar 2007 2:37 pm |
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Pelyma
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Patching, Sussex
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Quote:Next year, the indications are that you will be £236.15 better off.
He's still a nasty  er DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
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| 22nd Mar 2007 4:58 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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And show what a hypocrite he is the man formally known as dickgriff found this little item that will replace all the CO2 us drivers will save by paying extra taxes... maybe we should ask for our money back ?
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| 22nd Mar 2007 6:01 pm |
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Buckingham
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Hampshire
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his is just the thing to read after yesterday's budget!!!!!!!!!!!
A young man named Gordon bought a donkey from an old farmer for £100.00.
The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day, but when the farmer drove up he said, “sorry son, but I have some bad news… the donkey is on my truck, but unfortunately he’s dead.â€
Gordon replied, “Well then, just give me my money back.â€
The farmer said, “I can’t do that, because I’ve spent it already.â€
Gordon said, “OK then, just unload the donkey anyway.â€
The farmer asked, “What are you going to do with him?â€
Gordon answered, “I’m going to raffle him off.â€
To which the farmer exclaimed, “Surely you can’t raffle off a dead donkey!â€
But Gordon, with a wicked smile on his face said, “Of course I can, you watch me. I just won’t bother to tell anybody that he’s dead.â€
A month later the farmer met up with Gordon and asked, “What happened with that dead donkey?â€
Gordon said, “I raffled him off, sold 500 tickets at two pounds a piece, and made a huge, fat profit!!â€
Totally amazed, the farmer asked, “Didn’t anyone complain that you had stolen their money because you lied about the donkey being dead?â€
To which Gordon replied, “The only guy who found out about the donkey being dead was the raffle winner when he came to collect his prize. So I gave him his £2 raffle ticket money back plus an extra £200, which as you know is double the going rate for a donkey, so he thought I was a great guy!!â€
Gordon grew up and eventually became the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and no matter how many times he lied, or how much money he stole from the British voters, as long as he gave them back some of the stolen money, most of them, unfortunately, still thought he was a great guy.
The moral of the story is that if you think Gordon is about to play fair and do something for the everyday people of the country for once in his miserable, lying, life think again my friend, because you’ll be better off flogging a dead donkey.
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| 22nd Mar 2007 6:05 pm |
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anglofrog
Member Since: 08 Feb 2007
Location: in the hills among the trees and fields
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OK you have all convinced me I am staying here 
Just to let you know fuel price fell this week 
To have a good demo you also need a police force which will let you block roads and burn tyres as here  just dont start burning cars.
|Still soon we shall have a new president and you a new prime minister things might change
By the way Greens go for 4x4 as its ease to say and spell  Doing my best on the red wine lake, as its good for the heart
my other 4+4 is a real tractor but not as much fun on road
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| 22nd Mar 2007 6:15 pm |
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gilmore
Member Since: 16 Jan 2005
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After a gloomy few hours I just realised. I think my Jan 2005 model is taxed at the lower rate. Woohoo!
it. I'm off foxhunting. Or I might gas some badgers.
Is pig-sticking illegal?
regs
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| 22nd Mar 2007 6:49 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
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gilmorr your correct, any D3 that was registered as new before March 23rd 2006 will be in the lower band F, but from that date it would be in group G. 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 22nd Mar 2007 7:00 pm |
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Slimer
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There's some advantages to running an older D3 then 
It's a taken a while but congrats on 500 posts Woody  The End
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| 22nd Mar 2007 7:17 pm |
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WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
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Cheers Slimer, just noticed my post count. 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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| 22nd Mar 2007 7:43 pm |
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CY
Member Since: 16 Aug 2005
Location: Warwickshire
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Some people have quoted lists of cars that arn't 4x4s which are in this top brand etc.
Would be great if we could put together the ultimate list of all non-4x4 vehicles which have been included in this top bracket, so that every time the Beeb or any other media group or organisation says anything about "gas guzzling 4x4s", or "Chelsea tractors", or "4x4 mums" then we can blitz them over and over and over with the list until the cows (Sian Berry) come home.
Cheers 2007 Porsche Boxster (987) 2.7
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| 22nd Mar 2007 8:40 pm |
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