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axe1
 


Member Since: 06 Oct 2020
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Raptor underseal spray

has anyone used this before?

what is your experience with it in comparison with wax oil?

Last like i looked under my d4 i can see rust which i dont like with a late 2014 / 46,000 mile vehicle.

Im either going to fully underseal with Raptor or wax oil (much cheaper)
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Don't use Waxoyl. Its old technology and very outdated

Raptor is OK, but as with any underseal/rust prevention, preparation is the key. If you apply over rust, it will eventually fall off as the rust grows underneath

Ideally, you want to remove any loose rust, and wire brush/scrape the rusty part and surrounding area, then use a product with a rust neutraliser, to prevent it coming back again Thumbs Up
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Gareth
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Wax oil is horrible. My son has a 1985 camper van that has been smothered in black waxoil underneath.
Yes it has stopped it rusting to a reasonable extent, but the big problem is that every job is a messy chore because the stuff gets everywhere.
  
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I have used both .. I prefer Dinatrol to Waxoil these days.. however they are kind of different products from Raptor/

Traditional Waxoil can be quite useful in things like inner sills where you need some creeping gunk to find the bare bits that the water will find and sit in.. (just remember its there if you ever need to weld in that area!!)

raptor is a very tough polyurethane (iirc) coating. it is very tough. Way better than the likes of Hammerite paint for instance. It is great for underbody, sills and suspension components.

As Mike says the key is to make sure you prep the surfaces. clean, de-grease etc..

The other option is to use a simple stone chip or rust inhibitor coating and to apply it on a more regular basis.

With any of these options a shutz type gun is really the only way to get good coverage at a decent cost as the spray cans are expensive.

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Biffysun
 


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Have a look at Dinitrol, I'd avoid Waxoyl for reasons above Thumbs Up
  
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axe1
 


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many thanks for your help and advice guys

yes i will go with raptor, a local chap who works near to me and good with welding has said it will take a good 2 full days to make a proper job of the underside of D4, cleaning all surfaces free of rust and dirt / then treat with rust convertor , then prime with raptor primer, then finally coat with raptor

Cost of £400 for labor
Raptor about £90
then some consumables

I guess its going to be best part of £600 but i feel there is no replacement for the D4 so worth it imo?
  
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There is no direct replacement for the D4. If you intend to keep it for at least another 5 years plus, I’d say it was worth the expense. Not so sure if you think you might get rid of it before then.
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axe1
 


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yes i hear you, im at the same thinking myself. I think with the depreciation and its such a good vehicle we will keep it, for when massive cargo is required and use the leaf for everything else! One extreme to another
  
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How about using a rust treatment on rust, then painting?

The key to keeping rust away is to wash the underbody frequently. Waxoyl and other non-paint brands could be affected by frequent underbody washes.

My plan has always been to treat rust when I see it using (some stuff that's really pricey but good and which I can't recall the name of) and then overpaint with a rust inhibiting paint.
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