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Re-gassing your vehicle aircon system is no longer difficult - with this fantastic product almost anyone can replace the air conditioning gas and get back peak performance and freshness. The product does not fall within the scope of the F Gas regulations - the gas is not R134a. Instead it is a compatible product that can be added directly to vehicles previously filled with R134a . Most cars manufactured after 1994 were filled with R134a from new so our system is compatible with a huge range of official and unofficially imported vehicles. Simply connect this can of product to your air con system using a compatible Charging hose (sold separately, but available in our store,) and you'll be topped up in no time! Please check that you have access to the low pressure side of the vehicle, please contact us if you are unsure, always happy to help
Also found some straight connectors seeing it can be awkward
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10th May 2020 12:42 am
PROFSR G
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Have you run out of gas again Gary? yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
10th May 2020 12:57 am
gstuart
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U trying to say I talk to much, how very dare u
Replaced my condenser so wish to get it regassed
10th May 2020 1:25 am
PROFSR G
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Is your A/C system totally out of gas or just low do you think?
If you have a leak in the system then re-gassing is likely to disappear too! Normal procedure during re-gas is firstly to apply a vacuum to the system say for about 20 min. If after that time the vacuum has dropped there is very obviously a leak which is detected using various methods. If the applied vacuum has been maintained then the re-gas and oil change can proceed.
Oh I just saw the bit about changing the condenser yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
10th May 2020 1:39 am
Kelvo
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Please only use a qualified vehicle AC tech to recommission your system. Do not do it yourself if you are not qualified.
That Amazon product is a hydrocarbon, ie propane, butane or a mix of both. So you are now adding a highly flammable gas into your AC system, which it was never designed for.
Regardless of what the system is regassed with it still needs to be leak tested and vacuum dried before it can be regassed. Just adding refrigerant is going to leave you in a world of issues.MY14 TDV6
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10th May 2020 1:52 am
gstuart
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Hi buddy
Indeed, is Totally empty
Did pull a vacuum also pressure tested to ensure there were no leaks after replacing condenser
Along with the leaking condenser the small O rings at the front leaked on pressure but didn’t show on vacuum, replaced and all sound
Is it correct that they pull the vacuum to test for leaks and also to remove any moisture within the system
wondering if I refill the AC system myself if the quantity of oil will be correct
Know how much to add but then it’s if the oil is still in there and if it will be ok to just add the refrigerant
Do have an AC gauge manifold set
Many thks
10th May 2020 1:52 am
gstuart
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Kelvo wrote:
Please only use a qualified vehicle AC tech to recommission your system. Do not do it yourself if you are not qualified.
You need to leak test and vacuum dry before it can be regassed. Just adding refrigerant is going to leave you in a world of issues.
Apologises, posts crossed
Many thks for the heads up, alas thats why I always prefer to ask beforehand
Will wait then until I can find a garage to refil it for me
Most appreciated
10th May 2020 1:54 am
Kelvo
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I’ve edited my other post to add;
That Amazon product is a hydrocarbon, ie propane, butane or a mix of both. So you are now adding a highly flammable gas into your AC system, which it was never designed for.MY14 TDV6
10th May 2020 1:59 am
gstuart
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Thank u
That’s very interesting as I wondered what the substitute gas was
Worked with LPG in boilers and know how dangerous that can be
extremely grateful and so pleased I asked before buying it , Many thks for the heads up
10th May 2020 2:03 am
lynalldiscovery
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If no gas at all, you will need some pag oil as well.
Plenty of people just top up the gas, but do not add any oil, seen it many times!
If you buy a vac pump/set of scales/set of gauges and some 134 you are good to go.
Vac test is essential, 45 minutes is a good test, even then you can get a pass and it still leaks.
10th May 2020 2:07 am
gstuart
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Hi mate
Funny enough have PAG oil, AC gauge manifold set, scales etc , so with having the manifold gauges can easily add the pag oil
I done a vacuum and pressure test for an hour each
Trouble is When I done a vacuum test I didn’t see any oil come out , so alas don’t know how much is left ,
The proper R134 will work out around £100 and think many garages charge around £50
as it’s empty it would always concern me if I added enough oil or indeed added too much as don’t know what residue is left
Many thks as always
10th May 2020 2:40 am
gstuart
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lynalldiscovery wrote:
If no gas at all, you will need some pag oil as well.
Plenty of people just top up the gas, but do not add any oil, seen it many times!
If you buy a vac pump/set of scales/set of gauges and some 134 you are good to go.
Vac test is essential, 45 minutes is a good test, even then you can get a pass and it still leaks.
Look what I’ve just found
So assume it’s 5.9 Fl oz in total to be added
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10th May 2020 2:43 am
gstuart
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This was the set I got , vacuum I pulled was -30 Hg , wonder if the garages pull a higher vacuum
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10th May 2020 2:50 am
lynalldiscovery
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I cannot remember the quantities involved, but it is not much for a std regas, replace components and the qty of oil need starts to rise, Iirc required oil amount comes with the new parts, ie compressor will say add x amount.
When doing a vac you shoud pull some oil out, proper a/c machines weigh the oil amount and displays it in a clear bottle, there was a book with the machine telling you how much per car make/model.
Put new rear pipe on mine last year, regas was 96 quid! gone are the days of 25 pounds regas.
10th May 2020 3:03 am
Kelvo
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You are using a compound gauge, which is not designed to measure vacuum accurately. You measure vacuum in Torr or Microns.
In effect you are using a meter stick to measure centimetres.
As I said before get a qualified person to recommission your system.MY14 TDV6
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dangerous that can be
