Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
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Oil level not available
Tried to check the oil level on my D4 and it says "not available" next to the level indicator. Tried the 2 pushes on the cancel button and even left it overnight but still not available.
Is this a sign the level sensor is knackered? Scary if so as there are no other warnings and nothing to say the level sensor isn't workingPrevious Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
20th Jul 2019 8:05 am
disco4sui
Member Since: 14 Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 72
Do you wait for approximately 13-15 minutes after the engine has reached operating temperature and the car is switched off on level ground?
20th Jul 2019 8:18 am
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
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It should work instantly if you have left it over night and haven’t started the engine.
I assume you don’t have the engine running?
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20th Jul 2019 9:12 am
marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
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No. Tried leaving 10 mins. Leaving 2 hours and leaving over night. Still nothing. Also tried 2 pushes of cancel button
Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
20th Jul 2019 10:27 am
disco4sui
Member Since: 14 Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 72
I would try a 13-15 minutes window because at this time I always get results. At 10 minutes I get the same message, 3 minutes later I get a reading.
I don't if outside temperature makes any difference as the sensor waits for the oil to go down in the cardan.
I've just checked & I don't get a low battery light when checking the oil level.
Maybe a decent long charge might help?
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20th Jul 2019 1:03 pm
disco4sui
Member Since: 14 Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 72
I get the battery light when I check the oil (which I normal, battery light is always on while car is in ignition ON, even with a new battery)
But I don't get the yellow warning box, which should be a different error? This is how my reading looks like:
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20th Jul 2019 1:06 pm
eightfoot
Member Since: 12 Apr 2015
Location: sunny essex
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marsie wrote:
No. Tried leaving 10 mins. Leaving 2 hours and leaving over night. Still nothing. Also tried 2 pushes of cancel button
did you have the bonnet open when you did the 2x press cancel button ?? wont work otherwiseplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
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20th Jul 2019 1:07 pm
marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
Posts: 1807
Yes. Just had it plugged in on a mates iid tool and it measured 0. But said there was 6+ litres in. So looks like the level sensor is knackered
Ordered a new one for next week. But at least I am happy knowing it has some oil in till then Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
20th Jul 2019 2:04 pm
disco4sui
Member Since: 14 Jun 2017
Location: France
Posts: 72
The IID tool says I have 14 liters of oil in it
20th Jul 2019 2:05 pm
Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
eightfoot wrote:
marsie wrote:
No. Tried leaving 10 mins. Leaving 2 hours and leaving over night. Still nothing. Also tried 2 pushes of cancel button
did you have the bonnet open when you did the 2x press cancel button ?? wont work otherwise
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20th Jul 2019 2:41 pm
marsie
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
Posts: 1807
Yep bonnet open, door open. Every possible variation. My old D4s would show level after about 10-15 mins with no problem.
The IID tool also showed a live fault on the oil level circuit that wouldn't clear so first port of call is a new sensor.
Member Since: 28 Feb 2010
Location: Sheffieldish
Posts: 1807
disco4sui wrote:
I get the battery light when I check the oil (which I normal, battery light is always on while car is in ignition ON, even with a new battery)
But I don't get the yellow warning box, which should be a different error? This is how my reading looks like:
Click image to enlarge
The yellow triangle warning may have been because the door and bonnet were open on mine??Previous Discos
1989 200tdi 3dr
1994 300tdi ES
1995 3.9 ES (x3)
2000 4.0 adventurer
2001 4.0 ES
2005 D3 HSE (zambesi silver)
2007 D3 SE (Lugano teal)
2011 D4 XS (Baltic Blue)
2008 D3 HSE PREMIUM (buckingham blue)
2009 D4 XS (Nara bronze)
2006 D3 Metropolis (Java Black)
2012my D4 HSE (indus silver)
2013 D4 XS (Firenze red)
Current 2017 D5 first edition (silicone silver)
20th Jul 2019 3:14 pm
DiscoJeffster
Member Since: 27 Feb 2016
Location: Perth
Posts: 204
Sorry Russell but you do need the bonnet open if you want to check the level out of standard parameters. In cases where you go to check and it says not available (checked too soon after stopping, too late since, not level ground etc), the trick where you press cruise control cancel button twice requires the bonnet open to work. I had this exact issue on the weekend. Bonnet down, no go, open bonnet, fine.
21st Jul 2019 9:47 pm
M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
The bonnet open method is the dealer work around. The tech doesn’t want to be waiting 15 minutes to check the oil the way us mere mortals do. I can see why LR put a time on it as not everyone is car savvy, and if it read low after the engine has run, some, such as an ex work colleague would fill it up. Said work colleague brimmed the oil and then wondered why it ran like xxxxx. Black smoke, no power, burning smell....we dropped 5 litres of oil out of it before it read max. Luckily it was a new 1.6 petrol focus so no one could tell once the oil level was correct again.
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