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Oh FFS...another diff failure !
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Alex08
 


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When I had mine done a few years back I had the same delay issue.

I took the view that it needed done one way or the other, the dealer agreed to refund my payment when the warranty was approved and it was all done in a day by paying up front for it.

I think it was the rear diff, but remember it was the paint issue.
  
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euangibson
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Firenze RedDiscovery 4

....the latest in the saga Rolling Eyes
Land Rover have more questions on my diff .......so I now need to take the car down for a 3rd 170-mile round trip.....and leave it with Team Valley for 2 days for further investigation......which will require me making a 4th 170-mile round trip to pick it up 2 days later..... Banging Head
I understand this is not leading to a refusal of the warranty claim,and this is LR Engineering wanting to look closer into the issue,to dig deeper into the reasons for failure.......
Glad diesel is so cheap.... Censored
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 


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Post #123551912th Feb 2014 3:52 pm
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euangibson
 


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Scotland 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Firenze RedDiscovery 4

Just spoke to a very helpful LR Customer service guy......he has access to all the warranty communication so far,and apparently LR Engineering want chassis ears attached to identify exactly where the failure is......I suggested they might have asked for that in the first place,as part of the report they requested,thereby saving me another double round trip.... Rolling Eyes
As there doesn't appear to be any question of Warranty refusal,I also suggested LR Eng would probably get a more accurate result by dismantling the diff after it was removed to find the issue....The diff oil is clear and uncontaminated ( and was at the correct level)
I'm certainly not mechanical,but would there not be physical evidence left behind in the diff if it was very noisy and failing ?
I suppose they just want to be absolutely sure before replacing it,but it seems a pretty long-winded route ?
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
Post #123554812th Feb 2014 4:25 pm
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Flack
 


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Not all the time no, some diffs just start to whine and there is no evidence of any swarf in the oil.

Flack Thumbs Up
  
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euangibson
 


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Thanks Mick .....it must be pretty galling for them having to replace diffs if there's no obvious evidence of a fault/cause behind it.......I guess they're just being thorough Thumbs Up
Bit of a pain if your dealers aren't close to you though.....
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
Post #123557212th Feb 2014 5:08 pm
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Feel a bit guilty recommending TVLR to you now Embarassed
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Not at all Ian....when this was all done and dusted I was going to post how impressed I was with the service I have recieved from them.....they have kept me informed the whole time,and indeed during my conversation with LR Customer Service,they mentioned that they are one of their most highly thought of outfits Thumbs Up
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
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On that note....LR Customer Services suggested I ask about a "goodwill gesture " for the fuel expense and inconvenience ..... I've never gone down that route before,so how does it work ?.......do LR get charged or the Dealer ?...... Nobody had done anything "wrong" as such,but I wouldn't want Team Valley to have to pay for something they have no control over Confused
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
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Thanks Euan Thumbs Up With regard to "goodwill gesture" surely Land Rover should be offering that as it is them that are keep requesting more information Rolling Eyes
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I had goodwill with a FFRR where the car was filled to the brim each time I had to attend for outstanding warranty issues where they needed the car for parts fitting

Aberdeen to Perth = a full tank on a supercharged 4.2 Thumbs Up

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Hairy Dan wrote:
With regard to "goodwill gesture" surely Land Rover should be offering that as it is them that are keep requesting more information Rolling Eyes

The reason I phoned LRCS was that I wanted to know why more information was required if they weren't going to refuse the warranty .....so I totally agree,if its a request for more info from the LR end,then surely the goodwill gesture should come from their end ? Confused
Im very happy that LR want to find out as much info as possible if there is a D4 diff issue going forward,but surely that shouldn't be at a customers expense...... Confused
Either way,I'm not going to cause a fuss Thumbs Up
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
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euangibson
 


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Well after a further one a half days at the garage,LR have finally authorised the front diff to be replaced under warranty....... Very Happy
Full chassis ear tests were carried out yesterday,and then someone at LR noticed that I was currently running 19" wheels with GG AT's,and the original build spec of my car was listed as having 20" with Scorpion Zeros...... Rolling Eyes ....cue questions about when I changed them ?.... Did that coincide with the diff issues ?......what size were the GG's etc.....I started to see LR looking for an excuse.....
They then ordered all the tests to be carried out again,using my original 20" wheels ..
It looked like I was going to have to drive back down with my 20's,but fortunately Team Valley had another car in with the same 20's,and swapped them over for the tests......with exactly the same outcome as the 19's......I think I heard offside diff bearing was the culprit,but will ask for a full report tomorrow as it will now be too late to get the car after they finish replacing the diff tonight.
We got there in the end,and I have to say,through all this,Team Valley LR have been brilliant.... Thumbs Up
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
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Hairy Dan
 


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Thumbs Up I'll bet you will be glad to get it back all fixed
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euangibson
 


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Indeed I will....lunchtime tomorrow hopefully Thumbs Up
 "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...

Locking rear E-diff
RLD spare wheel protector & sump guard
Extended roof rails
Series 111 mudflaps
Black side tubes,grill and vents
Timed climate remote
Hids4u interior lights

D4 Firenze my2012 HSE
D3 Java 2005 SE manual (sold,sadly,thanks for the memories)
1966 '88 Series 2a....still starts in the morning better than I do... 
 
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