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The new trip is now; Ghent, Berlin, Munich and Metz, bit closer to home and less hassle at moment. All those hours or checking, re-checking, filling forms in and that too
19th Nov 2021 6:28 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Hopefully that plan survives contact with changing circumstances. Plus pics, we need pics.
19th Nov 2021 6:29 pm
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astonbuilder wrote:
^^^^^ yeah, my lad has been 'over there' since July through Europe, Balkans and down to Greece and has been asked for his passport a couple of times and NHS proof on his phone a couple of times.
How’s he working the 90 days in rolling 180 malarkie? Or is he on an EU/Schengen passport?
20th Nov 2021 11:31 am
astonbuilder
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By crossing over into Croatia and Bulgaria, not counted in the Schengen/European ‘allowance’, (along with Cyprus, Romania and Ireland)
21st Nov 2021 6:37 pm
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Thought it might involve Croatia, forgot about Bulgaria.
21st Nov 2021 7:32 pm
astonbuilder
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So we’re half-way through now and no real issues. Chunnel was straightforward and I’d pre-loaded French PLF’s so was waved through. For Belgium I’d done the pre-registration forms and, slight ‘mistake’, I’d said we’d be in country >48 hours so technically needed a PCR test on day 1 or 2 and some more registering ‘noise’ but we changed it and left country on 46 hours (SWMBO sure the feds would be watching us on motorway or waiting at the border, even switched her phone off ). We did drive a bit further south to avoid crossing into Netherlands on way to Berlin to avoid any more papers/registration issues though too.
No issues in Berlin at all.
Both countries very ‘hot’ on masks, vaccine pass and passport/ID card, even to just order a coffee or suchlike. It’s not draconian or barked orders, everybody just ‘does it’ as a normal every day thing.
Lot on news of Christmas markets may close but they are, by all accounts, much quieter than normal.
Munich next so let’s see if any different there.
So far, so good. Don’t think I’d have been doing the trip two weeks on from now though?
Full report and pics on return
23rd Nov 2021 9:56 pm
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Enjoy. Sounds like a nice trip.
I'm in Milan, Brescia and Zurich next week, Milan again the following week and US the week after. I spend my life filling in forms but the UK Passenger Locator Form works as I found out on Saturday. Tested negative so all good. Crossing my fingers it will all remain OK, though but rises in Covid could start closing things down again in the EU. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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23rd Nov 2021 10:15 pm
astonbuilder
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I was due to go on a footie trip to Bergamo and Milan but SWMBO got dibs
Some of my mates have made the trip and there sounds much like my own experiences so far ref paperwork and compliance so it’s all do’able if planned
23rd Nov 2021 10:28 pm
Lumi
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Yeah Italy is a bit hit and miss… in some areas they can be bit overzealous while in other they care less. So definitely worth be prepared for any eventuality. Have a safe trip.
24th Nov 2021 4:49 pm
astonbuilder
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Well, we made it back. Just ahead of newly imposed home isolation rules.......
We both said that if we were planning our trip a week or two later it wouldn't have happened I'm sure.
Had to do a lot of paperwork and research for all the ever-changing rules and 'imminent' lockdowns followed us throughout and were mainstay of Belgian/German/French news stories. Christmas markets closing daily as we travelled too.
Entry into France from chunnel was straightforward. I'd electronically uploaded everything and got an OK from Eurotunnel ahead of travelling so just went straight through 'as normal'. For Belgium I'd uploaded a PLF for us and that got us a flurry of daily emails and texts with dire warnings of arrest/isolation/fines if we didn't comply with getting tests, etc. if there more than 48 hours. We left just before that deadline but the messages are still coming now as no 'physical' border to exit from to say 'no longer there'.
Whilst Ghent was 100% masks and Covid passes 'everywhere', Germany was a bit more 'in your face' pushing the message, absolutely everywhere firmly, but politely, pressed for wearing of masks and checking of NHS app passes with passport ID to match. Had to buy FFP2 masks in Munich as the blue paper NHS style ones we had are not acceptable.
Loved Berlin, despite living in Germany for a couple of years I'd never been there, There is still such a huge difference between the 'west' and 'east' sides 30+ years after the wall came down. Sure there's some big-name hotels and glass'n'chrome buildings but graffiti and 'dirt' everywhere and just that worn-out, run-down, feel to the place.
Munich announced a 10.00pm curfew in the local area we stayed in and all bars and shops strictly adhered to kicking out times and police patrols present and watching crowds disperse. The Christmas market in Marianplatz had only opened the afternoon before and was being dismantled when we arrived.
Weather got colder throughout the trip culminating in dusting of snow in Munich but when we got home our house was like a block of ice and generally felt colder here than over there.
On return last leg we picked my lad up in Augsburg along with the dog he'd got on his travels. His (dual national) German GF is stopping on with her gran in their camper van a while longer.
Getting the dog onto Eurotunnel was easy, took less than five minutes. Separate area to pull in to check wormed in last 48 hours, all jabs up to date and chip scanned for ID and on our way. They checked our PLF's for UK entry there so they were OK'd at the actual 'border' when we got to it after sorting the dog so, again, straight through onto the train and home.
2008 miles, in total, average of 39.7mpg brim to brim (didn't go above 80mph even on unrestricted autobahns)
Few random picks of Ghent, Berlin and Munich;
Macka (pronounced Matchka = cat in Montenegrin ) who attached herself to my lad and his GF and they 'adopted' - how could you not fall in love with her She is a lovely dog, so quiet and placid. TRavelled about 3000 miles with them and well travelled with about 7 countries and then finally France and England to her new forever home.
28th Nov 2021 12:00 pm
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Great pics.
Love Macka.
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28th Nov 2021 12:18 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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She indeed looks lovely, and had landed on her paws.
28th Nov 2021 12:25 pm
astonbuilder
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Turns out Macka is a pedigree ‘Montenegrin mountain hound’ according to vet. Had to look that one up, understandably never heard of that breed.
6th Dec 2021 9:09 pm
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Interesting report - thanks for sharing2008 D3 HSE Stornoway Grey with Ebony Leather, towing a Coachman VIP 575
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