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No backbone ?
Is anyone else worried that the new entirely aluminium chassis's will compromise the new disco in any way ie towing ? I always think of a big strong ladder chassis underneath a car as a sign it's built for a proper job pickups ,defenders, etc . I'm just abit worried the disco will lose its credentials as a car that can be used for heavy work . Is there some clever design that means it's just as strong or do I need to go back to the trusty land cruiser once the D4 gets old !
15th Apr 2016 7:13 am
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The only heavy work the new D5 will get is taking Euphemia and Tarquin's bags to school. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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15th Apr 2016 7:17 am
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Why should this be a concern when both the lighter Full Fat RR & RRSport have towing capacities of 3500kg 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
15th Apr 2016 7:20 am
challenger23
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I agree with you there moo but what if we want to put it through some proper work there quite a few soft roaders with high tow ratings just can't see how removing the strongest part of the car helps it apart from weight , like I say I'm happy if there's some clever way that it's somehow stronger but I haven't seen anything showing that yet
The official towing capacities vs real life performance are two different things though. There's no substitute for weight. Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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15th Apr 2016 7:37 am
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LR know that a lot of people use these for towing and more and more farmers are now using them for live stock trailers as the defender is going. The end result I believe is LR will not rate the car for towing 3500 if they do not believe it is capable and safe to do that. However the proof will be in the pudding when it arrives.MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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15th Apr 2016 7:47 am
Ken
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Lost for Words wrote:
. There's no substitute for weight.
There you go DG we are Safe
15th Apr 2016 7:57 am
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LR say the D5 will retain key LR features such as off-road and towing capability, in fact they claim the former will be improved in the new model, my concern wouldn't be the abilities but wether an Aluminium chassis would survive the the tough and tumble over a longer term, it can crack and break where steel would dent and bend.==================================
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15th Apr 2016 8:19 am
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Moo wrote:
The only heavy work the new D5 will get is taking Euphemia and Tarquin's bags to school.
Mark
15th Apr 2016 8:32 am
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15th Apr 2016 8:37 am
challenger23
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Exactly my fears you can't beat a ladder chassis for strength and durability after all it was one of the main things they kept banging on about with the D3 the big lift video and all that , my concern is we end up with another occasional use stipulation coming in like the whole detachable tow bar situation once a few people have put it through some real testing apart from taking Tarquin to sports day !
15th Apr 2016 8:38 am
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challenger23 wrote:
Exactly my fears
why have fears ...two lighter vehicles have been officially rated so why all the worry I don't get it at all 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
15th Apr 2016 8:55 am
challenger23
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1 is like people have said you can't beat weight for towing.
2 is there is always a downside to most things no matter how good it appears in the brochure.
15th Apr 2016 9:03 am
J77
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No! Range Range and Range Rover Sport seem to manage.
The D5 will be as capable as the current model, it will do everything the current car will do. The only impracticality I can see is the sloping rear windscreen.
If the price is right I will have one, but if rumours of a £7k - £15k price hike are true then my current one will stay.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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