Harlequin
Member Since: 29 Mar 2007
Location: Hornsea, East Yorkshire
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My 07 manual XS is now 28 months old and has just gone in for its 45k service. I anticipated that the original brake pads would be ready for replacement and therefore told the garage (main dealer) before the service to get on and change them. I was gobsmacked to be told that not only did the pads need replacing (but they weren't worn completely) - but that the front discs were on their limit and needed replacement.
My driving style (a lot of engine braking) is such that it's not unusual for me to get in excess of 45k out of a set of pads (I also used to get that out of a set of tyres until I bought a D3!!). In 40 years of driving, I have never, ever had a car which needed new discs at that sort of mileage.
I have to say that I have absolute confidence in the dealer - have used them for years and have made a number of postings on here about their excellent service. John C knows who I'm talking about! I am told that it's not unusual for the D3 to need new discs at 30k, never mind 45.
Is this normal - or do I have an issue with Landrover - not that I would get anywhere.
Be interested to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
Richard I was taught to be cautious.
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 5th Aug 2009 6:11 am |
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bigdave
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Hi Richard,
When mine got it's 60k service I was advised by the stealer that the discs were on the limit and neede changing.
I took their advice at face value but my brother in law, a Peugeot main dealer mechanic, reckon they were fine and it's a con by the dealers to earn a bit extra during lean times!!
However it is a 2.7ton beast so it has to be a judgement call by you.
You could always ask for your 'worn' discs to be returned to you and have them independently inspected.
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| 5th Aug 2009 6:38 am |
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Harlequin
Member Since: 29 Mar 2007
Location: Hornsea, East Yorkshire
Posts: 231
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Thanks Dave
I was going to ask to see the discs, anyway - but thanks for the sound advice. I have to say that I trust the dealership absolutely - probably one of the best in the country (you don't have to be a brain surgeon to work out who I am talking about - just look at my previous posts!)
Yes - I recognise that she's a heavy beast but I would have thought that disc wear would only have become evident if I had been running it on bare metal instead of pads.
Oh well - just one of the joys of owning the best vehicle there is - along with having to replace the tyres every 20k or so. The present Grabbers have been on since 19k and are also getting close to replacement!
Richard I was taught to be cautious.
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| 5th Aug 2009 7:26 am |
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Dave T
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: Glasgow
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Mine were advised to be changed at around 37000 (I have a lead right foot so need them a fair bit  ), but if you are prepared to get your hands dirty you can save at least half the cost of the dealer doing it, even if you use genuine parts, which I always would do for brakes and stuff like that. It really is a simple, straight forward job, you may just need a few special tools (Torx keys) that can be bought from Halfords fairly cheaply (about a tenner for a set).
I suppose it boils down to "do I want to risk my brakes failing?" 
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| 5th Aug 2009 7:36 am |
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SPOTTER
Member Since: 06 Dec 2006
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first ones replaced at 30K....second set absolutely fine at 75K (i.e. 45k on the discs)....... 
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| 5th Aug 2009 8:34 am |
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blueanchorinn
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Replaced mine all round at 55000 when the warning light came on halfway down Geronimo   (advised at 45000 the pads wouldn't last until 60000 and that the discs were on the limit) Pot Noodle Challenge Winner 2011
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| 5th Aug 2009 8:55 am |
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petsar68
Member Since: 12 Feb 2009
Location: Queenstown - Central Otago
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Funny you should mention discs as mine have just been replaced at about the same mileage as well as sensors ???? and the pads, all in for $600 (New Zealand). I was thinking the same as you but i am pleased to hear i am not alone. I am not sure what the sensors relate to though ? 1995 V8 ES - SOLD.
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| 5th Aug 2009 9:06 am |
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Harlequin
Member Since: 29 Mar 2007
Location: Hornsea, East Yorkshire
Posts: 231
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Thanks all - feel a bit reassured now that I can see that I'm not alone. Suppose I'll just have to desist from using my brakes  I was taught to be cautious.
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| 5th Aug 2009 1:05 pm |
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AndrewS
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Simple to resolve this. Measure the thickness of the discs
Also remember that when you go off road the ABS TC HDC will all apply the brakes, a lot is certain conditions that will wear out a set of pads very quickly ergo the discs as well.
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| 5th Aug 2009 1:33 pm |
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Harlequin
Member Since: 29 Mar 2007
Location: Hornsea, East Yorkshire
Posts: 231
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Andrew
Thanks - accept what you say about off-road driving - but the point is that the pads had actually done quite well - 45k and still some to go.... but the discs were on their limit - seems a bit odd to me that the wear rate on the discs seems to have been greater than the pads. The only other explanation is that the discs as so thin to start with that they're not allowing for reasonable wear. I was taught to be cautious.
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| 5th Aug 2009 4:28 pm |
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AndrewS
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17mm rear and 27mm front (I think) are the minimum thickness. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 5th Aug 2009 4:35 pm |
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DiscoDunc
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I had my rear discs changed at 90K approx and the front discs are still OK at 95K Duncan
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| 5th Aug 2009 5:13 pm |
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Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
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I change Mini Discs at 10k loads of factors & they are consumables that’s how it is
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| 5th Aug 2009 5:39 pm |
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BBDisco3
Member Since: 23 Nov 2008
Location: Cheshire
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Richard
You have done well. My first discs were replaced at 3 years 30,000 mile and again 2 months later after only 1000 mile. On both occassions the problem was found through the steering wheel wobble only when braking (just like having an unbalanced wheel) Although the first set had been replaced by myself using original parts, the local LR dealer then carried out the job of replacment, under the parts warranty.
Hope your's last longer
Brian
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| 6th Aug 2009 6:20 pm |
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Harlequin
Member Since: 29 Mar 2007
Location: Hornsea, East Yorkshire
Posts: 231
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I have recently spoken to a friend of mine who is in the motor trade. He tells me that it's fairly normal, these days, to have to replace discs every two years or so. Given that they are comparitively cheap - £32 each in the case of the Disco - he doesn't see it as a big issue - and I have to say I agree. Although the total bill was about £300 for new pads, discs and the sensors - small price to pay for safety. His theory is that since the banning of asbestos, brake pads are now made of a much harder material - plus pads have generally increased in size as compared to the size of the discs. This inevitably leads to increased wear. Albeit that it is just his opinion - but it seems to make a lot of sense.
Richard I was taught to be cautious.
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| 6th Aug 2009 6:59 pm |
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