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New FBH Pump - no joy! Error 88h Fault
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jonathanrichards
 


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New FBH Pump - no joy! Error 88h Fault

Hi guys,

I've been having problems getting my FBH to start on my recently purchased D3




The Webasto software is throwing a 88h fuel pump metering fault when I try to start the heater or prime the pump.

So I purchased a new pump and fitted it today.






Guess what? It didn't make a jot of difference!

So I'm thinking it could be a wiring issue?

I put a paperclip into the control connector at pin 5 (blue and white wire)



and then ran a cable from that under the car to a paper clip in the connector at the pump end.

I then bridged these with a multimeter set to check continuity (beeps).



and I didn't get any continuity.

Firstly - am I doing this correctly???

And if so, would this indicate that there is a break in the wire from the pump end to the controller connector end??

Any tips would be very much appreciated!

Thanks,

Jonathan
  
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If you haven't continuity you have a problem on the cables,

look at the scheme

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Do you think I could temporarily Scotchlok a wire from behind the multi plug at the heater end, the just before the connector at the pump end, just to check functionality??
  
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Yes, should be a good idea

Try to see if a wire of the pump connector goes to ground:
- if yes try a new wire from the Webasto (pin 5) to the pump
- if not, try with a new ground wire

C0920 is your connector


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Blue/White wire at the pump end doesn't go to ground. But the ground doesn't go to ground either!
  
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pin 1 is GROUND (black cable?), 2 is pulsed +12V from WEBASTO
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Yes, but there's no continuity between the black wire/connector at the pump end and the chassis rail
  
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Ok, so it seems the problem is on the ground wire......
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So to summarise, at the pump end, if there’s no continuity for either the earth or the positive, then either the cables are severed or unplugged somewhere between the pump and the heater?
  
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Connector C2373 on the same compartment of the engine bay fuses box

Here the correct pics for C2373-C2374 and C0920 (RHD) but in Italian

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C2373 pin 1 to GROUND C3001
C2373 pin 2 to C0925 pin 5 WEBASTO (pulsed +12V)


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C2374 pin 1 -> C0920 pin 1 pump GROUND
C2374 pin 2 -> C0920 pin 2 pump +12V pulsed


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pin 1 is GROUND, 2 is pulsed +12V from WEBASTO


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with this pics you are able to check the whole electrical lines...
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Post modified again (wrong C3001 pic, now correct for the Diesel)

Some pics are taken from D4 Electrical library because I'm not able to look for a complete Discovery 3 Electrical Reference Library, but following both electrical diagram (D3 and D4) the "name" of the connectors are the same.......
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I'm a little confused as per this post https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic70824.html suggests that there is a break in the harness somewhere under the right side of the car under near the footwell. I don't see that on the diagrams you sent.

What do you think?
  
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I am not 100% sure but I think what your seeing on the black wire might be correct, I am sure I read somewhere that the fbh is a pulsed feed and that it is switched from the main ecu through the earth wire to make it run.
So unless its seeing a demand to run that wire will have no continuity .

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Well I've ordered myself some piercing multimeter probes to check the continuity of the blue/white feed from the connector at the FBH end through to the pump end. There must be a break somewhere either at a loom connector or a chaffed wire somewhere else.
  
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