vasssilis
Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Athens
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Hello to all Land Rover owners.
I live in Athens and I am considering to go for a Disco 4 MY2012 to be used as an executive taxi!
You might consider this a rather weird idea...well, I believe with this type of car I would be able to offer you (when you will travel to Greece for Holidays or Business) the best service, an elevated limo for the town and an easy going SUV for trips around archeological sights and virgin natural landscapes.
Thus, I would be gratefull if you could post the 3-5 most important reasons for either 'go' or 'not go' for disco4.
Obviously reliability issues are of my top concerns considering the use of the car, but to be honest I don't have a clear picture about the situation for contemporary models. I am sure that your are easilly guess what would be the alternative to Disco.
So please, express yourself.
Thnak you in advance for helping on that.
Vassilis,
Athens
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 9th Dec 2011 5:01 pm |
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Niall
Member Since: 30 Jul 2011
Location: UK
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I'll offer my opinion to start, sure you'll soon get others!
For:
1 - Premium brand
2 - Looks good
3 - Will be a smooth ride on bumpy roads and will go anywhere.
Against:
1 - Running cost
2 - Reliability
3 - Initial purchase cost
To qualify that though, reliability won't be a problem with a warranty (as long as you don't have a breakdown with customers!) and I'm sure similar alternatives are of similar initial cost.
Good luck! 
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| 9th Dec 2011 5:59 pm |
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DG
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 How many D4 MY2012's have broken down so far then ? 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 9th Dec 2011 6:06 pm |
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Niall
Member Since: 30 Jul 2011
Location: UK
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Clearly not a lot, but based on previous Land Rovers it's always worth raising the issue!
I'll happily stand corrected, but Land Rovers are prone to niggly faults... I'll go back to the D3 threads now! 
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| 9th Dec 2011 6:44 pm |
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RichardB
Member Since: 03 May 2010
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Good luck with your venture.
However, I don't think the D4 is an Exec taxi / limo experience. It's a great drive in the front. But not nearly so good in the back seats.
3 seats across and everso slightly cramped legroom. Yes, it is still very nice but not luxury class. For real class it needs to be the FFRR to compete and surpass the rear seat comfort of Mercs etc or BMWs. Saddens me to say but I'd rather sit in the back of an X5 (though not on rough roads). But I'd take the D4 as a driver every day and twice on Sundays.
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| 9th Dec 2011 10:15 pm |
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vasssilis
Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Athens
Posts: 7
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Unnecessary quote removed
Well, it is true that the legroom at the back seats is limited plus the design to have three distinct seats of equal width makes them of limited comfort alll of them. It is a pitty that the middle seat does not provide when folded an appropriate arm rest and finally it should be available, at least for the two outer seats, the backrests to recline, that would give it some serious extra comfort.
On the other hand it provides the best room when it comes to be used as a 7 seater and its ride comfort is benchmark as already mentioned.
I have test driven also the X5 and the Land cruiser (as 7 seaters alternatives). Best room for passengers at the back seats is at the toyota.
PS what is the FFRR stand for?
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| 9th Dec 2011 10:44 pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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FFRR = Full Fat Range Rover (i.e. the "proper" one, not the Sport = Semi Skimmed)
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Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 9th Dec 2011 10:52 pm |
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vasssilis
Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Athens
Posts: 7
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antoniasdad wrote:FFRR = Full Fat Range Rover (i.e. the "proper" one, not the Sport = Semi Skimmed)
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| 9th Dec 2011 10:55 pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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I love the Discovery, I think it's an astonishing car. Whether it's tight for you I dunno, but it's hard to imagine it as a BAD choice.
Why not lease one for a few months and see whether it works for you? ____
Gone: 10MY L320 RR Sport HSE, Ipanema Sand
Gone: 20MY Jaguar iPace HSE, Silicon Silver
Gone: 17MY RR Evoque SE Tech, Loire Blue
Gone: 08MY Discovery 3 XS, Stornoway Grey
Gone: 07MY FFRR TDV8 Vogue, Stornoway Grey
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| 9th Dec 2011 10:58 pm |
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vasssilis
Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Athens
Posts: 7
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Leasing only for a few months is not possible here in Greece and would cost too much such a trial.
Does anyone have first hand experience for a straight comparison with a Land cruiser (small or big one) for the purposes I am interested in? That would be very helpful.
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| 11th Dec 2011 10:43 am |
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Moo
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I get driven to the airport in FFRR or Volvo XC90 2 - 3 time a week. I also spend a lot of time in the back of an X5 going to the rugby.
Personally i Think the the FFRR beats them all hands down but interestingly the chauffeur company we use is looking at the D4 HSE. I would be very happy to be ferried around in a D4 HSE.
The question I would ask is, is this the right time to start up a limo business in Greece?
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| 11th Dec 2011 10:54 am |
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highlandcow
Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
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A couple of months ago I saw a chauffeur-driven D4 in Gleneagles Hotel livery waiting at Edinburgh airport.
Gleneagles Hotel is a fairly expensive establishment and it was a bit disappointing to see that the D4 was an XS.
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| 11th Dec 2011 1:50 pm |
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vasssilis
Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Athens
Posts: 7
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Thank you very much for keeping contribute to this topic.
Regarding the business timing question.
The point is that until the time we are talking it is not possible to start a private taxi company in Greece, either you have the yellow cabs or the real limo servises. The sector is 'closed' and regulated by state. Within the next days it is expected new legislation to pass that regulates openly this market so it will accessible to everyone to start either a yellow cab company or a private taxi one. So the issue is raised as it becomes a possibility.
Whether it is the right time or not considering the prevailing economic situation my thoughts in a few lines are the following.
Regarding the business case, I foresee a mix of upper-class tourists and local/visiting executives of 70-30 for this market sector. Further I consider tourists market as more robust and less sensitive to economy fluctuations, at least for the target group I aim for.
On a parallel line, considering the austerity measures taken in Greece, and everywhere else, and the worsening for the next years to come, I think that being employed for a private company or public services is not promising at all any more thus leaving only one way out....entrepreneurship!
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| 11th Dec 2011 4:23 pm |
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MogulBoy
Member Since: 07 Feb 2010
Location: Devon
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Good luck with the Entrepreneurship! Regarding the D4, its a great way to travel but possibly worth bearing in mind that access to the rear seats requires a bit of gymnastics. Nothing too serious but if you are not familiar with the vehicle you might assume that being comparatively large that the thrid row is just as easy to access as the second but this is not the case. When the seats are occupied, there isn't that much luggage space so you may need to consider a big roof box or possibly even a trailer or tow bar mounted box if you anticipate picking up large parties with luggage... This is where some of the alternative executive express mini-van type vehicles can shine as it is easier to get more passengers in. MY11 D4 SDV6 SE LHD (with remote park heater, heated seats in row 2, heated steering wheel and rear HVAC controls!)
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| 12th Dec 2011 10:12 am |
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vasssilis
Member Since: 09 Dec 2011
Location: Athens
Posts: 7
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Thanks. I have checked the third row entry and it is as you say. Nevertheless I expect to use the extra seats occasionally and mainly by families with many kids. I guess kids will not find it hard to get in there. Luggage space is a common issue for all 7-seaters SUVs, but on the other side a mini-van cannot deliver the safety, luxury and comfort you can get in an SUV. Some trailer or roof box could solve the problem whenever appears (know it before hand though).
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| 12th Dec 2011 11:41 am |
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