Slimer
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To all you manual gear changers...
How easy is it for you to change gear? Does it just slide smoothly between gears or is it a bit 'lumpy'?
On mine going up and down the box is okay but as I go through neutral a bit more pressure is required than I would have expected.
Getting into reverse is a complete pain, the hard shove over to the left is as expected but actually getting it up into reverse from there is a battle, sometimes requiring going back to neutral and trying again.
It seems to be getting worse so I'm going to ask my dealer what adjustments can be made but I would like some feedback from the rest of you on how your's work so I have a reference point
Cheers
Simon
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 26th May 2005 8:23 pm |
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simon
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No problems with mine apart from the engine loosing power 1st to 2nd most of the time... if you get the revs and go peddle just right its nice and smooth. Apparently and engine management issue on some cars ???
Never noticed this on the test drive car though. But then I was rather enjoying the car too much to notice or remember though.
I find reverse is sometimes too easy to select if your too quick to try and select first after reversing...
Normally stiff to reverse which I prefer.
-s
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| 26th May 2005 8:30 pm |
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Dom Harvey
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Yup mine is awkward to get into reverse, I have to be quite firm otherwise I end up in 1st by mistake and head in definitely the wrong direction - so far luckily no wall has been in my way. I'll be interested to see what your dealers do. 2004 Discovery 3 - gone
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| 26th May 2005 8:54 pm |
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Winger
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Stiff reverse selection too; no problem with any forward gears though.
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| 26th May 2005 9:03 pm |
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Kevin
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Mine was very very stiff in all gears for the first two months / 2,800 miles. Reverse was nearly impossible at times as was changing down from 3rd to 2nd or 2nd to 1st. In the last fortnight the linkage or box has suddenly freed itself up. I now only need to use one hand to change gears. 
Hit the 4,000 mile mark yesterday.
I was going to go back to the dealer but I am still waiting for them to sort out some other minor issues. Kevin
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| 26th May 2005 10:00 pm |
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Slimer
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Thanks Kevin, that's encouraging.
I've only down around 1300 miles so I may give it a month or so and see if things ease off
Si
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| 26th May 2005 10:18 pm |
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BN
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Maybe I've had my 3 Weetabix (the factory is only 3 miles away) but my gears are like silk. But then I have only ever driven manual 4x4's and maybe use to them.
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| 27th May 2005 6:23 am |
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Wineman
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I am with BN, having driven my ex-MOD Defender 90 around the Vineyard all day, changing gears in the D3 is as easy as moving my computer mouse! 2017 Disco5 First Edition(On Order)
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| 27th May 2005 7:53 am |
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Slimer
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Picking up my ex-MOD Series III 109" tonight so that'll probably put a different perspective on things! It's LHD so the gearstick will be on the wrong side anyway  The End
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| 27th May 2005 8:06 am |
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BN
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Blimey, you had better have 6 Weetabix for that, but then your right hand was made for changing gear . I prefer left hand drive vehicles to our right hand, much easier. Whoops could start an international debate, come on freeflytim, what do you think.
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| 27th May 2005 8:19 am |
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Slimer
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If only LR had taken the center-steer idea a but further... The End
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| 27th May 2005 8:39 am |
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BN
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I tell you what, I have driven the Scania concept bus with centre steer, it is horrendous. No where to lean your elbows on
Don't forget that 1st gear is for pull away, not race away. It will loose power dramatically after 2500rpm in 1st gear. Generally to make a quick getaway, 1st gear count 1 + 2 then snick into 2 etc you will be using the power band and not the lost energy at the top end of the revs. The car is for torque, not revs.
Has anyone tried the nifty little technique (in manuals) of putting the car in first gear on a fairly steep downward decline (or reverse depending which way you are facing), engaging HDC, let off the parking brake and taking feet off all the controls (including foot brake), then starting the engine. Amassing. The car never stops amazing me the more I abuse it.
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| 27th May 2005 11:10 am |
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ducati
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BN wrote:
Don't forget that 1st gear is for pull away, not race away. The car is for torque, not revs.
Not if you have a V8 
BN wrote:
Has anyone tried the nifty little technique (in manuals) of putting the car in first gear on a fairly steep downward decline (or reverse depending which way you are facing), engaging HDC, let off the parking brake and taking feet off all the controls (including foot brake), then starting the engine. Amassing. The car never stops amazing me the more I abuse it.
How does the vehicle actuate the clutch?
I had a Jeep that would let you crank the engine in gear... It was an interesting experience, as you would jet forward off whatever obstacle you were on  '05 LR3 HSE
Departed: '62 Series IIA, '02 Freelander, '03 Disco
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| 27th May 2005 12:09 pm |
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simon
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the 'failed hill climb' exercise - as per BN above - is one they teach you on the Experience.
Unnerving at first but when you try it, its very cool and assures you that you'll be safe going down backwards should you fail going forwards.
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| 27th May 2005 12:29 pm |
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BN
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Ducati, should work even better with the V8 unless your tick over is too high. Don't forget you do not use any pedals, brake clutch or gas.
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| 27th May 2005 1:03 pm |
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