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Long Range Fuel Tank
Landy Disco 3 owners take note. There is now another alternative for a long range tank. Similar to the tank made by Long Range Automotive, the tank we have just had made goes where the spare wheel fits when the vehicle is manufactured - so you do need a rear bar and wheel carrier first. (We got a Kaymar and it is a very nice unit.) The big difference with ours is that they have managed to mount it up very high, so that the fuel does not need to be pumped from the long range tank to the normal tank.
The tank hold 106 litres as opposed to the LR Automotive tank that can hold 110 litres. The new tank uses the existing filler-pipe whereas the LR automotive has two separate fillers. The shape and height of mounting means that it is less likely to ground-out that the original spare tyre would have. The BIG test, filling it up, was excellent. The tanks filled rapidly with no "blow-back" until they were completely full.
The only drawback - if you see it as a problem - is that the fuel guage reads full until the long range tank is empty as it is continually draining into the main tank.
My car was used as the guinea pig for the future production models, so I will be getting mine at cost, but I would assume that the price may be slightly cheaper than a LR Automotive tank due to the simplified filling arrangement and the lack of requirement for a pump.
The tanks are made here in WA.
If anyone would like to get more info about these tanks, they can PM me.
Cheers,
Away.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
away,
Would certainly be happy to hear more about this alternative tank. It sounds like a good option, particularly having it tucked further up - do you have pics? Pls send to sarch@4x4intelligence.com.au.
FYI - there is also an alternative to the Kaymar bar and rear wheel carrier - just a carrier - PM me for more details.
regards,
SimonD3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
If you could post some pics on this thread of the tank insitu that would be great.
How does the new tank's filler fit into the existing filler pipe?
BTW I don't think posting the manufacturer of this tank is advertising because you appear to be a customer rather than a supplier.
Thanks,
Chris2011 Discovery 4 (MY12) SDV6 HSE with General Grabber AT's, Traxide Aux Battery system, custom rear drawers and Autosafe half height cargo barrier
Gone - 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE
ARB Bull Bar, Warn 9.5XP Winch, IPF D/Lights, Cooper STT's, LR Raised Air Intake, Traxide aux battery system, custom drawers and half height Autosafe cargo barrier, Mitchell Bros 4x4 tow hitch
16th Mar 2007 2:14 am
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I'll post the pictures tomorrow sometime. I was going to wait until I went home on Monday and fit the wheel and jerry can carriers to the rear bar, but by popular demand......
About the filler pipe, it has been redirected to the new tank. The filler in the old tank is not used any more.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
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16th Mar 2007 9:07 am
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OK, Some Photos:
This is the rear view showing the Kaymar Bar with reversing sensors. The Bar is extensively used to support the rear end of the tank. As you can see, the tank isn't too low and when the tow hitch is attached, (which is going to be all the time anyway), it is going to take the brunt of any "hits" before the tank does.
This is a side on view showing how they've shaped it to fit where the spare wheel once was. You can make out some of the supporting brackets and gussets. It isn't going anywhere!
This shot shows the pipe that goes between the new tank and the original tank. Its has protection at the original tank end, bu I think I might extend that back a bit.
This last shot is a view from the other side. For all of these shots the suspension was lower to Access Height to show the minimum clearance the tank has.
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D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
One of your comments suggests that the Kaymar bar is used to help support the tank - is that correct?
regards,
SimonD3 - Buckingham Blue, SE, TDV6, 06 model; chipped; underbody armour; Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65-18 AND MAXXIS Bighorn muddies; rear wheel carrier from 4x4intelligence.com; iPOD aux connection! GME 3200 UHF - aerial mounted on wheel carrier ; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come)
18th Mar 2007 9:18 am
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g'day,
yes, that is correct. The guy who is going to distribute these tanks is trying to have versions for the commercially made bars available but obviously this is a big job so he has commissioned a rear bar of his own that will integrate with the tank. That way he can offer a "one stop" service. So at this stage it will be a version for Kaymar and a version for the custom bar. The custom bar will be a good one. I've seen other stuff that he does and it is first class - as well as being as tough as nails!
I had already purchased the Kaymar Bar, so they made the tank to suit.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
20th Mar 2007 12:55 am
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LR Tank
, just fitted my LR tank yesterday. Nice tank, b d of a job
Now AWAY If your boilermaker wants to make some serious money get him to develop an approved high tow hitch to replace the plough!
20th Mar 2007 5:48 am
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g'day kenso,
I've already asked him about that. He doesn't want to know....but he has developed an upswept tongue to go into the plough that is rated and has been stamped at the full 3.5 tonnes. It has heavy duty gusseting and steel with a Reece style attachment point. It will take either a ball ot treg style connector. It allows about 75 mm higher hitching of the camper drawbar.
I'll be up your way in July (or maybe earlier) so you can have a look at it if you like.
Cheers.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
20th Mar 2007 5:54 am
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Hitch
No worries, I really cannot understand why someone won't engineer one? What we can put a bloke on the moon but we cannot make a tow hitch for a D3 If your bloke can build a tongue and rate it why cant he build a raised bar? when you see the great job Rob did with his it doesn't seem that bloody hard! and proberly far stronger! Hayman Reece and Kaymar give you the silent treatment when asked about this! I have just got a 160mm riser from HR to replace the huge adjustable hitch that I have been using without the weight distribution bars. ......160mm higher than the bottom of the plough this is the correct hight to make my bushtracker level!
Should still be here in July in the process of selling up everything we own (except the D3 and BT ) and going on a very very very slow trip around Oz and NZ for next 3 or 20 years
Kenso
20th Mar 2007 6:07 am
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Re my tow bar,
I have given it a realy good test out now, with fully loaded off road trailer 790 kg and my 16 foot trailer loaded
to 2.8 tones and has preformed very well.
At my last service the mechenic went over it with a fine tooth combe so as to speak, his comments were
positive , extremely strong, well designed, and a good solution to the problem (this was off the record and no
way on behalf of L R )
My next step is when my engineer frend has time , to do the full check, not sure when that may be.
So if it can be propley certified someone may be interested in producing it, lets hope.
Rob
20th Mar 2007 6:34 am
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Hi Rob,
Is there some way by which you can test the bar to the full 3.5 tonnes that the vehicle is rated at?
Cheers
Russ.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
20th Mar 2007 11:49 pm
Rob Bruce
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Russ
Testing to 3.5 tonne depends on what the engineer technicaly rates the bar at.
Also he may require some mods, I wil just have to see what happens.
Generaly I dont like towing more than the tare wt of the tow vechle, but for peace of mind
it is good to have a bar rated at greater than you need.
Rob
21st Mar 2007 12:52 am
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Rob Bruce wrote:
Russ
Testing to 3.5 tonne depends on what the engineer technicaly rates the bar at.
Also he may require some mods, I wil just have to see what happens.
Generaly I dont like towing more than the tare wt of the tow vechle, but for peace of mind
it is good to have a bar rated at greater than you need.
Rob
That's what I was getting at Rob. Few of us would ever tow at the rated weight, but I was more concerned about the insurance aspect. If the bar is rated, then the insurers have to wear it.
Russ.D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
21st Mar 2007 1:43 am
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Re: Hitch
kenso wrote:
No worries, I really cannot understand why someone won't engineer one? What we can put a bloke on the moon but we cannot make a tow hitch for a D3 If your bloke can build a tongue and rate it why cant he build a raised bar? when you see the great job Rob did with his it doesn't seem that bloody hard! and proberly far stronger! Hayman Reece and Kaymar give you the silent treatment when asked about this! I have just got a 160mm riser from HR to replace the huge adjustable hitch that I have been using without the weight distribution bars. ......160mm higher than the bottom of the plough this is the correct hight to make my bushtracker level!
Should still be here in July in the process of selling up everything we own (except the D3 and BT ) and going on a very very very slow trip around Oz and NZ for next 3 or 20 years
Kenso
Only 20 years? Hardly seems worth the effort...lol...D4: Expedition Rack, 104 Litre Long Range Tank, Raised Air Intake
D3: Every bloomin' thing but the kitchen sink
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; LR roof rails/cross bars; Autosafe cargo barrier, Safari Snorkel; Traxide - aux battery; ARB bull bar with Tigerz11 winch; Lightforce 240 XGT driving lights (mitchell bros tow hitch to come) 
, just fitted my LR tank yesterday. Nice tank, b 
) and going on a very very very slow trip around Oz and NZ for next 3 or 20 years 
