GSLRO
Member Since: 10 Sep 2008
Location: Sunderland
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That's why I couldn't get into the passenger door then, I was using a bloomin allen key!  Club N.E.R.D.s
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 4th Mar 2010 12:05 am |
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GSLRO
Member Since: 10 Sep 2008
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 1279
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PS Thank god MFI went down the swanny! They used different size allen keys you know!  Club N.E.R.D.s
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| 4th Mar 2010 12:06 am |
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jgjn
Member Since: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Losser
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The problem get's more odd. The car responds 3 or 4 times to the remote key and than it stops. After these 3 or 4 times being connected (with f.i. key 1) it stops reacting and using key 2 doesn't make a difference.
Also the special function button doesn't work anymore then. After some hours i again can 'get on contact' for 3 or 4 times.
could it be a key battery problem, but, in that case, why don't i get the message on the screen that there is a key battery problem? or can the CPU have a battery problem?
al of this doesn't make me feel comfortable closing the car, because i'm not sure it can be opened again after a while.
Joost
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| 4th Mar 2010 8:13 am |
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GSLRO
Member Since: 10 Sep 2008
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 1279
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Joost,
Sounds like you will need to take it to a service centre with full diagnostics. My first thought was the battery was not recharging but in both keys 
Hope someone else can shed a little more light on this for you! You could try a PM to TLO or TFC for a second opinion before you take it to a garage!
Good Luck
George  Club N.E.R.D.s
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| 4th Mar 2010 8:25 am |
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jgjn
Member Since: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Losser
Posts: 7
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I've been at the specialists and they found this. If the electric parts responsible for opening the doors encounter mechanical difficulties they build up an electric peak. If this happens too often the computer blocks all key functions for a number of hours. Which means you can not enter the car until the computer releases the function again.
Does this sound familiar for anybody?
Joost
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| 15th Mar 2010 10:53 am |
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alanvsmith
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4
 
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jgjn wrote:My remote keys both fail and also the manual way (as shown in the video) brings no result. The door stays locked. Does anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
Joost
Mine has done exactly the same. Neither key works and the manual way doesn't work. Anyone with any ideas? Do you know how many hours a "number of hours" is?
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| 22nd Mar 2010 8:32 pm |
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Roel
Member Since: 16 Aug 2008
Location: home
Posts: 1215
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I had a problem awhile ago with an empty battery and I couldn't open the doors. I got in after putting power on the trailer plug. Roel
1997 Camel Trophy Disco ex-P101JWK (traded it for a Britains 42101)
1984 90 TD5
2005 G4 Disco 3 BN55WPT
Also member of club MTR
and Club Faultmate
Interested in my 4x4 history see my website: www.mudmachine.webklik.nl
Sorry it's in Dutch and with google translator it gets funny.
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| 23rd Mar 2010 9:28 am |
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jgjn
Member Since: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Losser
Posts: 7
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Hello Alan,
The garage is now busy for a week (!) to find out what causes this failure. First they mentioned a peak voltage in the automatic door as i wrote. This seems to be not the problem...
A transmission faillure can also block the key functions if it happens more than once. Because they are still searching i would like to know if you ever had a transmission faillure.
I would appreciate if you could give me a reaction.
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| 25th Mar 2010 8:50 am |
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alanvsmith
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Norfolk
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After an overnight wait, I went to mine and it opened fine. That same evening it refused to open again and has remained that way ever since - 5 days and counting.
In answer to your question, no, mine has never had a transmission failure, in fact, apart from a blown fuse on the washer bottle pump, nothing has ever gone wrong.
I called the dealer today. They didn't have a clue, but he did mention that "we have had some in and there is 'something wrong in the electrics' " He couldn't offer any advice as to how to get in, apart from the "manual" method, which I explained to him, brings no result.
I will keep you posted
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| 29th Mar 2010 3:06 pm |
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alanvsmith
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 4
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Landi wrote:ahhhhhh
Page 37 of the operating manual, and who said some of us were wasting time reading the manual 
But its a good video
Ian
The manual says to turn the key anticlockwise to unlock the LHF door - the video shows it being turned clockwise to unlock it. As mine doesn't work in either direction, and as both keyfobs have suddenly and without warning, stopped working, I'm locked out.
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| 29th Mar 2010 4:57 pm |
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jgjn
Member Since: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Losser
Posts: 7
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i hope to get my car back tomorrow. they've tested it over and over and it seems to work. You being locked out for 5 days doesn't give me a sound feeling. Mine opened every time after 3 or 4 hours.
When the car was diagnosed, there was no error at all about the remote control not working. The only error reported was about the transmission. It seems that this failure might cause several block-outs from which the remote control only is one.
I'll keep you posted.
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| 29th Mar 2010 6:24 pm |
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Bob.
Member Since: 05 Apr 2009
Location: 52�N 2�W
Posts: 94
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After reading this thread I went and checked my manual unlock. At first I thought it didn't work although the key turned about 20 degrees both ways, but it simply required more effort to turn the key clockwise to unlock (yes the manual is wrong). To avoid breaking it, I held the fob right where the key comes out and turned it with more force. It turned about another 10 degrees and there was an audible clunk as the latch moved. I think it was a total lack of use (and probably no lubricant) which made it seem impossible to open at first.
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| 30th Mar 2010 10:14 pm |
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jgjn
Member Since: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Losser
Posts: 7
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Please be careful while doing that. because of the lack of use it turns quite heavily. After some efforts it opened but then something inside the lock broke. This specific part is not available as such. You need to buy the lock, 2 keys and the lock for your steering wheel as a set which costs about 500 euro. It's in backorder for 4 weeks now... The car has not been developed in an intelligent way.
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| 31st Mar 2010 6:00 am |
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Bob.
Member Since: 05 Apr 2009
Location: 52�N 2�W
Posts: 94
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Very sorry to hear that jgjn.
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| 31st Mar 2010 1:58 pm |
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chrism3513
Member Since: 28 Apr 2012
Location: melbourne
Posts: 3
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I have mine set to headlights, IMO boot seems a bit pointless.
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| 13th May 2012 3:15 am |
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