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2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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16th Oct 2014 3:22 pm
Disco_Mikey
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Poo.
It's not the hoses then. It seems that there is a leak around the intake manifold. It's hard to tell but it seems either a cracked intake, plugs or block. Some evidence of soot.
Thoughts?D4 HSE all the way
27th Oct 2014 5:33 pm
Mambosasa
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Loads of air is coming through this hole of throttle. I can see soot on the engine cover and the surrounding areas.
What's under there? Could something just have got loose at some point?D4 HSE all the way
28th Oct 2014 12:34 pm
Robbie
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Can you see a crack or split in the manifold itself?Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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no. I will use some washing up liquid tomorrow and see what it throws up. There is a bold in that hole. I removed it, checked the rubber washer and its all looking good. Its clean as well, which seems to suggest that the leak is coming from somewhere else on the manifold.
If its a cracked manifold, any ideas on cost? I hope I am not looking at thousands again!D4 HSE all the way
28th Oct 2014 9:51 pm
Robbie
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Use human-friendly soap or car shampoo as washing-up liquid is full of stuff that you do not want on your car or engine. With blown leaks regular water would do and where possible try to keep clear of the electrics.
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Okay - quick update. Pouring a bit of soapy water over the area, it now seems that the air flow is not coming from the top at all. It seems to be pushing through the side of the foam packing so its either side of the manifold (ie split) or its just a high pressure stream coming from the turbo valve underneath.D4 HSE all the way
29th Oct 2014 12:56 pm
Mambosasa
Member Since: 31 May 2013
Location: Birmingham
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Confirmed.
Manifold has cracked. It seems that there is a huge amount of pressure there. The mechanic believes that the breather pipe might be blocked, hence the crack. He is suggesting changing the breather assembly too and see if that sorts out the issue. He is not really sure what would have been the root cause.
He tells me that the pressure is so high that you could see it pushing everything out.
Very strange.D4 HSE all the way
31st Oct 2014 3:48 pm
Mambosasa
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Location: Birmingham
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Ok.
I have the car back. It was confirmed that the issue was with a damaged/ cracked far side intake manifold. The garage could not understand how such damage would have been caused, apart from the possibility that the vents may have been blocked and the damage caused by high boost pressures.
Anyway, it took about 8 hours to remove all the bits, check the injectors, change various gaskets and breather pipes and reassemble. It's now running beautifully and some of the 'pinking' I used to get is all gone.
I think this had been slowly getting worse for some time.
This piece was broken from somewhere within the manifold. Again, hard to tell where from.
Oh, whist there, I had timed climate enabled.
Great service from this small indipendant garage. I also had their rather charming freelancer 1 whist they worked on the car.
Oh, cost - about 800 notes and change. D4 HSE all the way
7th Nov 2014 1:43 pm
Mambosasa
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Another thing, the intake was pretty grotty with oily muck. Not sure if that's right.D4 HSE all the way
7th Nov 2014 1:45 pm
Robbie
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Unfortunately the intake is force-fed oily muck, so it is to be expected.Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
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