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Nasher
 


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Land Rover Passion Upper tailgate latch.

Yesterday I finally got around to fitting the Land Rover Passion Upper tailgate latch kit to my D4.

https://www.4x4overlander.com/product/lrp-...discovery/

It replaces the loop of bicycle brake cable hanging out the side of the trim that I fitted when I brought the car, a mod I'd also done to my D3.

I've decided it will be easier to get in and out of the tailgate when sleeping in the back of the car than manoeuvering my way out the rear side doors.
For the price it just seemed far easier to buy the kit than the plan I had of making something up myself.

Just some points worth noting for those doing the same mod:

The instructions on the website are really good.
https://www.4x4overlander.com/wp-content/u...tion-1.pdf

I’ve got far too many tools, but most people considering themselves capable of fitting the kit will probably have all the tools required.

But, it’s really worth reading the instructions above to judge if you are capable of fitting it.

The usual instruction of having to pull on trim pieces to remove them far harder than you think you’ll have to applies.

The ‘Shield’ mentioned in section 4.3 of the instructions wasn’t present on my 65 plate D4.

Watch your hands on the sharp edges of the internal tailgate sheet metal.

When using the supplied template to cut the hole in the trim piece the instructions say to draw round it showing a light coloured interior.
That obviously isn’t possible if you have a Black interior like I do.
But it’s easy enough to cover the area in masking tape and draw on that.
I used a Dremel to cut the hole, not a jigsaw.

The handle assembly is nicely finished in Black, but it’s really easy to scrape the finish off the edges passing it behind the sheet metal of the tailgate, so keep it in it’s bubblewrap bag or cover the edges in masking tape.

I’m really pleased with the result, but forgot to take any pictures.
It’s currently covered up by the canvas load space cover I have fitted, but that’s easy enough to rip off it’s Velcro if needed.

I am however going to have to remember it’s there under the cover when loading stuff in and out of the boot.

Good Luck
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Hats off to u mate and indeed making life easier when camping

great idea with regards to using a dremel , Thks for sharing the added extra details Bow down
   
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Nice writeup.
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Nasher
 


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If anyone is considering buying one of these based on this thread - Hold off a few days.

As of lunchtime today the upper tailgate won't open using the outside button, but will open using the newly installed inside latch.
I can hear the Solenoid moving with the outside button but it's not unlocking.

I'm going to assume at the moment that the cable hasn't broken, and the problem is either something I've done, or that the new unit is somehow stopping the Solenoid moving far enough to work.
Note it has worked OK probably 20 times since I installed the LRP unit.
I'm not ruling out me having done something daft at this stage.

I won't get a chance to dive back into the tailgate for a few days, but will report back ASAP.
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I was thinking of getting one of those kits for my D3, but I'm going for a much cheaper and possibly easier option that I think someone else on here did a version of, using a reclining chair latch that can be bought for £8.99 on Amazon.https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B7RWDHV5?psc...ct_details

I also picked up a 2nd hand subwoofer plate for £15 on ebay to modify and test the setup. It will mean fabricating a bracket, which is an easy job for me, but some might not want to go down that route and use the Powerful UK one, which does look well made, but you still have to do a lot of modification work.

Just another project to add to the other mods many owners have already done. Thumbs Up
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Yep, as posted on here before that's exactly the same part that rocks up in the LRP kit.
But with the Bracket, fasteners, cable clamp, and template to cut the hole in the trim.
Oh, and it has the nice little image printed on it, not that that's important.

Like you I was reluctant to buy the kit knowing I was more than capable of making the bracket myself, but kept putting it off and end the end just brought the kit to move the project along.

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Sorry all, I should have updated this a few days ago.

Over the weekend I stripped the lower tailgate down again, removed the Solenoid with the LRP kit still attached and plugged it back in outside the tailgate where I could see it operate.

I first checked that I'd carried out the instructions to the letter with regard to where and how to connect the cable, which I had done.

It was very sluggish, and actually after 3 or 4 attempts to activate it with the button it stopped completely.
10 seconds later it would work again for 3 or 4 attempts.

I suspected that I wasn't pushing the electrical connector fully home, but that wasn't the case.
So I got out my handy can of spray silicone lubricant with a 'straw' on, and lubricated the catch mechanism in the lower tailgate.
From that point on it worked perfectly, and continues to.

It had worked before I fitted the kit, and I don't believe in coincidences of this type.
So I can only conclude that the kit is putting extra load on the solenoid to the point that it's not able to deal with a 'sticky' latch mechanism.
I don't understand how in reality, because it doesn't appear that way, and Yes, I do understand that ultimately the latch needing lubricating is what was wrong, but the conclusion has to be that the kit is somehow putting additional load on the Solenoid, accelerating the point at which the Solenoid can't overcome a sticky latch.
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Thanks for your excellent write up.

Check latch tension if you can, usually solenoid works free, without extra load Thumbs Up
 

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However, I do not thank you for showing me all the toys at 4X4Overlander.com…
I think I have just about justified buying everything.
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I fitted this kit yesturday to our D3 it's been sitting hear in a box for 6 months thought it about time.
Simple enuff todo and peace of mind if the original fails so we can get the dogs out
  
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So this kit opens the top glass part of the tailgate as well as the lower section?
I don’t relish the thought of our dogs being stuck in the boot either!
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No it only releases the upper tailgate but once open you can unlock the bottom door via the button and or by pressing the side locks in with your finger
  
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BUMP - no need for this, just add a switch and connect to the electrics in the tailgate -

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/internal-tr...03709.html

£5 and 1 hour of my time.
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That's a neat solution and I might think about that for the ease of opening in a camping scenario. But I presume this still relies on the electric actuator functioning and doesn't solve the problem of emergency opening when (not if) the actuator fails?
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