Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
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Key flashing with IID Tool - report
Thought I’d post this up as it may prove useful.
When I bought my D3, the previous owner gave me three keys.
Two LR keys, one with broken rubber faceplate, and an unbranded one with a blank key, but exactely the same in appearance.
His advice was that it just needed cutting and coded, but it never occurred to me to ask why he hadn’t.
A closer look revealed that the unbranded key was made by Visteon, the people who made my LR keys, but that the frequency of the unbranded one was different; 315 MHz for the unbranded, 433 MHz for the branded.
As the unbranded one is stamped with FCC ID numbers, and the branded CE approval, my guess is the blank was an eBay sourced oem from North America.
Question was, being different frequencies, would the blank key be programmable?
Could not find anyone that would do it, they all said they would “supply” a coded key (cheapest quote £140), and a local auto smith would cut and code for £95, but no guarantees on s key supplied by me.
Not knowing if the key could actually be programmed to the car, not worth the cost to find out.
Finally, my local big chain key smith finally agreed to cut the key for £5 as long as I provided them a cover letter absolving them of any damage or consequence.
This, then, was worth a punt.
Key cut today, got home, whipped out my IID Tool and went through the process.
First pass, operation aborted, so that’s that I figured.
Went back through to program the two LR keys back in, and actually followed the instructions this time, and at the end of it thought ‘why not’, so put the freshly cut unbranded key in.
Took a couple of seconds longer, but flashed up “programmed”!
I’ve checked and it now opens and closes the doors and starts the car, no worries.
Now, don’t know where this key did actually come from, but if anyone is thinking of giving it a try but isn’t sure, the 315 MHz blank has worked for me.
Andy
14th Mar 2018 2:30 pm
dpfdoctor
Member Since: 28 Feb 2018
Location: Scunthorpe
Posts: 6
Maybe the key was from 3D group and reall 433
15th Mar 2018 11:29 pm
XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
Posts: 597
That would make a lot more sense!
No idea where the previous owner got the key, and no receipts to go on.
Very glad you pointed that out as I’ve been scouring eBay for another blank key, and thought about 315mhz ones.
16th Mar 2018 2:39 pm
dpfdoctor
Member Since: 28 Feb 2018
Location: Scunthorpe
Posts: 6
No worries, that company is 3D automotive group and obviously not genuine but all the stuff I’ve had from them in the past has been fine quality wise.
16th Mar 2018 2:49 pm
XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
Posts: 597
In that case ....
The key is a Visteon branded key, same as my original ones. I’ll see if I can get in touch with the owner
Andy
16th Mar 2018 5:10 pm
dpfdoctor
Member Since: 28 Feb 2018
Location: Scunthorpe
Posts: 6
If you get stuck just let me know as I’ve got an account there 👍
16th Mar 2018 5:48 pm
MonLand
Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Herndon, VA USA
Posts: 78
Just curious if you were able to confirm that the key was indeed the "wrong" frequency. I think you are right on the Europe/UK vs US. I am actually not that surprised that the cars can have a receiver that works with either frequency, but if that's allowed, then I don't know why we are not using the same frequency on all the remotes (since I assume the in-car unit "talks" to the remote as well? Maybe not?).
3rd Jul 2018 10:48 pm
L319
Member Since: 14 Dec 2013
Location: Herefordshire
Posts: 2080
Frequencies for radio signals are closely regulated all over the world and unfortunately the EU , US and Japan for instance, have allocated different frequency bands for car remotes. I am sure if you check with the FCC that the 433mhz is allocated for another use in the US
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