wallworkf1 wrote:

So - before I start stripping it down any further (and while I build up the motivation to crack on with it in between work) - I thought I would just try my timing pin set.

I bought a cheap set of eBay - and of course the flexiplate/flywheel locking one doesn't quite fit in the access hole.

What do others think? - does that look wrong to you? would there be any reason for it to be like this? To me it looks roughly 1 tooth out on the belt/crank front pulley?

BTW if i line up the two of the larger paint marks on the pully together - things still don't line up!

Well no, it doesn't look right. The crank is the primary arbiter in setting the timing so as said already go with the tool so long as it fits correctly and is tight when you secure it with a bolt. Then set up the cams to comply with that setting.

If it's of any help the tool measurements are 35 mm, 20 mm and 10 mm for the pin, you can put a gauge on it and compare.

The cam tools are 6 mm.

Spin it over plenty of times to satisfy yourself all is well, (easier with injector or glow plugs out)
If you're not confident in that tool don't use it, as this engine will require huge torque to re-tighten the crank pulley! 100 Nm and then 90 deg

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Pete K wrote:

Yeah I think they did it without locking tool.
That’s the only reason ppl put paint marks on

Remove the belt. Believe the locking tool.

That makes sense - even then it doesn't look like they've stuck to their marks

jenseneverest wrote:

Nice to see someone having a go at a rebuild rather than a "new lump"
going back to your pic of the bits found in your oil in the plastic container.....
Those look like big bits, and i doubt they are from the shells / bearings.
Have you had the filter out and did you pull the element apart to check for fillings in there ??
Will be very interested in seeing pics of the shells / crank when you get that out

Good luck

PROFSR G wrote:

Well no, it doesn't look right. The crank is the primary arbiter in setting the timing so as said already go with the tool so long as it fits correctly and is tight when you secure it with a bolt. Then set up the cams to comply with that setting.

If it's of any help the tool measurements are 35 mm, 20 mm and 10 mm for the pin, you can put a gauge on it and compare.

The cam tools are 6 mm.

Spin it over plenty of times to satisfy yourself all is well, (easier with injector or glow plugs out)
If you're not confident in that tool don't use it, as this engine will require huge torque to re-tighten the crank pulley! 100 Nm and then 90 deg

Glad its not just me then and I'm thinking straight enough! Thanks I'll check the timing tool, I think its just the outer diameter that's a fraction too big.

I did indeed take the glow plugs out to make it easier, but I don't know how the one nearest the HPFP comes out fully - its a bit tight to get past?! I also had to wait for the only tool not in my (extensive!) toolbox to arrive before taking them out! a deep 8mm socket!