croyde
Member Since: 17 Aug 2005
Location: SE England
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What type of marking denotes a Green Lane on an OS map. 2cms to 1 km.
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Ray dadd
Member Since: 18 Feb 2006
Location: stourbridge
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best join a access group and get to know a bit more about laning then members will teach you the do's and donts .plus all the map stuff .it is a bit of a mine feild now NERC has been passed
look at www.crag-uk.org CRAG-uk.org
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| 13th Apr 2006 10:25 pm |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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Excuse my ignorance folks, but being from the colonies, I can’t make out what Green lanes are. 
Could someone explain what you term as Green Lanes.
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| 16th Apr 2006 10:58 am |
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Ray dadd
Member Since: 18 Feb 2006
Location: stourbridge
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Green lanes are basically old roads with vehicular rights. All roads in this country and other countries started off as just a track for carts and so on to carry trade from town to town and then evolved as the usage increased. Some where stoned some remained grass as per the usage they received or ground conditions .from as far back as the roman time these roads existed.
But in the present times some of these roads still exist as they where used in the last 1800’s and early 1900’s horse & cart and even mechanised vehicles such as traction engines. And the so called loop hole as a car is a horseless carriage.
Also there are some roads where old main highways that have become obsolete with the introduction of truck roads and motorways /highways. Such as turnpikes and toll roads, some of these became the new truck roads .then some just fell into disrepair then became over grown unused roads and so some now known as green lanes.
There are many schools of thought about the use with motorised vehicles on these as some people think using horses and cart evidence is a bit of a loop hole .but where did the car originate from (horseless carriage).but unlike may other outside the pastime don’t really know about all the other evidence that gives a motor vehicular rights .such as old roads becoming obsolete and the proof of very old mechanised motors such as steam vehicles(traction engines & steam lorries such as the old foden ones)these type of vehicles existed about or may be plus 100 years ago so that’s where the rights come from. ish but it is a mine field of law and research .
Last of all is the proof that a road even existed across land this is a even bigger mine field .evidence of using old maps from cyclists from the last 1800’s (Bartholomew) old ordinance survey maps, tythed / taxation maps (very old) and much much more so I will not send you to sleep with all this so I will shut up now
Yours
Ray CRAG-uk.org
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| 16th Apr 2006 1:31 pm |
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Slimer
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Take a look at the GLASS website if you want to know a bit more The End
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| 16th Apr 2006 2:17 pm |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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Thanks for that info Ray dadd and Slimer. Interesting and needless to say, our colonial history does not go far enough back to have anything like Green Lane situations.
Cheers and thanks again 8) 2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
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| 16th Apr 2006 6:10 pm |
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Ray dadd
Member Since: 18 Feb 2006
Location: stourbridge
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if you look around drive safe i bet you will find somthing down there .history is a great teacher
mind you though i hated history when i was a kid but when i do look at old doc's now i love it  very sad or what .i was in shropshire county offices the other week and i found an original doc signed by tomas telford (old famous enginer bloke)which was very interesting to some of us  .
but hey ho thats life .funny how things you hate turn out usefull when your older CRAG-uk.org
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| 16th Apr 2006 6:14 pm |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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Hi Ray, I was the other way round. I have always enjoyed history, from school days and after.
The biggest problem here is that schools today have no idea what the word history means.
Teaches here are more interested in telling student that they don’t have to do what there parents tell them and showing them the correct way to fill out a dole application form. 
Very little time is spent actually educating our present day students.
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| 16th Apr 2006 7:02 pm |
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Baggy
Member Since: 11 Feb 2006
Location: sydney.....in the land of oz
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here, here drivesafe!!
I remember studying all about our colonial past in primary school - unfortunately, it seems this is only briefly glossed over today. '11 TDV6 - Stornoway Grey.... still lovin' it!!
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| 17th Apr 2006 12:22 am |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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Hi Baggy, you don’t even have to go back that far in our history to realise just how little our great learning institutes are teaching this country’s future leaders etc.
A perfect example and something that scared the hell out of me. My daughter is in her final year at uni but about two years ago a discussion came up about the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima and to my dismay, my daughter asked what was Hiroshima about.
She had never been taught about it or anything relating to the atomic bomb, in school and my daughter took history as a selective at high school.
All I could think of was, what are these brain-dead individuals doing running our education system. 2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
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| 17th Apr 2006 1:27 am |
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tony bennett
Member Since: 28 Jul 2005
Location: South West
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drivesafe wrote:Excuse my ignorance folks, but being from the colonies, I can’t make out what Green lanes are.
Could someone explain what you term as Green Lanes.
Cheers.
Hi, another way to answer your question would be.
We wish we could lift the rough parts of the Gumball Highway up from Australia and deposit it here  regards
tony
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| 17th Apr 2006 9:25 am |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
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tony bennett wrote:Hi, another way to answer your question would be.
We wish we could lift the rough parts of the Gumball Highway up from Australia and deposit it here
Hi tony, it’s interesting that you should post that request and before everybody in Britain jumps down my throat, this next comment is NOT meant to be a slur, but simply an observation.
Of all the different pictures and videos I’ve seen of British off roading, most seam to be pretty tame.
Is this a correct observation or am I missing something.
Again, no slur intended, just curious.
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| 17th Apr 2006 9:36 am |
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tony bennett
Member Since: 28 Jul 2005
Location: South West
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Hi drivesafe,
I dont think it's a slur at all.
No it's not all tame, but our rough stuff is on private land.
and to some extent you answer your own question.
Why do you think there are so many people popping over to Oz for the Gumball and that annual event you have......name escapes me.... 4 inch lifted Range Rover Classics and such regards
tony
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| 17th Apr 2006 9:50 am |
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drivesafe
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Posts: 867
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Hi Tony, if ever you come to Australia for a 4x4 holiday, the place to go as the first off road adventure you do here, is to go the Fraser Island.
This place is literally 4x4 heaven. The island is about 120 kms long and about 30 kms across at it’s widest point and there is NO dirt.
It’s all sand, the largest sand island in the world.
It’s a national park and is World Heritage Listed
And best of all, you are only allowed on the island in a 4x4.
The only way to get to the island is by barge and of a weekend it can get so busy that the cops set up speed cameras on the main beach, which is nearly 100 kms long, at low tide.
Try the link below, it will take you to 12 pictures I took there, two weeks ago. My first trip there but I can’t wait to get back.
Accommodation varies from camping on the beach, all the way up to Five Star Hotels and of the 500 kms I did during the 3 days I spent on the island, I only found one strip of tar about 500 meters long, in one of the many villages located all over the island.
http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Foru...mp;t=10833
Cheers and I hope you enjoy the pics as much as I enjoyed Fraser Island 2008 TDV8 RR Lux + 2009 D4 2.7
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| 17th Apr 2006 11:30 am |
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Slimer
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Visited Fraser Island when I was over there a few years back, highly recommend it, near enough nothing but sand, 4x4s and dingos The End
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| 17th Apr 2006 11:42 am |
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