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^ That sounds like good British black humour to me. Something that was important to my father, brother and sister as they were dying of cancer. I guess we don’t all share the same sense of humour though.
Back on topic- That’s extremely disappointing Nigel. I’d like to believe such people are in the minority though. I think you did exactly the right thing though. 👍2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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20th Dec 2019 4:53 pm
Someone-Gone
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Trolling me yet again? It’s a full time job for you.
I am sure you’re quite right, the patient has no right to feel aggrieved over being laughed at, photos taken and other staff being invited into the merriment. Hell, they should have posted it on Facebook.
The post illustrates the good and bad in health care, it’s very much on topic.
20th Dec 2019 5:23 pm
LT
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Trolling.
You're getting paranoid. I'm just expressing my opinion. That happens a lot on Internet forums.
I've spent a lot of time around dying family and friends and black humour can be a big relief. I also found it common place. If your friend didn't like it, and they knew, then the nurses should have of course stopped.
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They made that much of a hack with it, they laughed in front of him, took selfies and brought other nurses into see!
Good job it wasn't preparation for a vasectomy.
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21st Dec 2019 10:36 am
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The Dundonian wrote:
A bit different from a friend of mine in 2011, who was loosing hair in clumps because of chemo. He asked the nurses to please shave his hair, which they reluctantly did with an old blunt electric trimmer. All they could muster on the cancer ward apparently.
They made that much of a hack with it, they laughed in front of him, took selfies and brought other nurses into see!
They kept telling him they weren't laughing at him, just the hair. His “gift” to their devoted care was not making a formal complaint! He recovered, but is still upset by what they did.
I suppose it’s like most things, there’s good and bad in everything.
I wont tell you how many rules they probably broke.
But to your last statement yes there are a large number of staff members in the NHS that are genuinely devoted to the job and the people they care for and that isn't just nursing and clinical staff but all the way through to the support staff and managers who will all go that extra mile and then there are others for whom its just a means to a pay packet, who arrive barely on time, finish dead on time, park in the patient car parks to save a 50yd walk etc==================================
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21st Dec 2019 12:32 pm
Geoff at Drym
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NJSS wrote:
Well done Geoff.
Three years ago, at this time of year I was in intensive care and the cardiac unit at Southampton.
Before being discharged I organised a "whip-round" for the staff Christmas party. Not many people in hospital have much cash, as I discovered.
However after we were discharged a handful of us sorted thing out, and I was delighted to return with a couple of hundred pounds for the Christmas party.
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True Mog and it can be a different side of the same coin.
All I know is that it was traumatic enough for the guy getting chemo, distressing to see the hair on the pillow in the morning and credit due he asked for help in shaving his hair off, which he couldn’t have managed by himself, but the “black humour” if you can even call it that, was terribly inappropriate, even cruel.
Would you have done it? Of course not. Even if I’d got a cue from the patient, I wouldn’t have indulged tbh. Some things you just don’t joke about. If the patient wants to do it, fine, but you don’t join in. Common sense tbh.
There was a scandal a couple of years back at Dundee Uni Med School. A cadaver was subject to a student or students medics playing naughts and crosses on the individuals chests. It was at a time my mother donated her body to that school. I was never informed if she had been desecrated in this way, but surprise, surprise they never apparently found the culprit/s or tried hard enough, shouldn’t have been that difficult. Who ever will go on to be a Doctor, is that scary of what?
21st Dec 2019 12:54 pm
leeds
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Well as a youngster I was taught to mind my p's and q's or it was clip around the ear 'ole.
Also that manners did cost anything.
So a please and thank you, or holding a door open for someone, or letting an elderly person or parent with young child to cross the road makes for a better environment for everybody to live in.
So well done NJSS for saying thank you to the NHS staff.
As a complete aside the origin of p's and q's is quite interesting
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