patersp
Member Since: 09 Jun 2016
Location: Bromley
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Hi All. Looking at getting a gearbox flush on my MY13 - 78000 miles. Nothing really wrong with the box - bit clunky when cold but pretty smooth when warmed up. More of a nice to have than a must have.
I’ve been quoted £395 plus VAT for a flush and refill or £695 + VAT for a flush, filter change and refill. Quite a difference between the two.
Is a filter change necessary in your humble (and expert) opinions?
Also going for an Alive remap to spice things up a bit 
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 3rd Jul 2020 4:43 pm |
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DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Who quoted you?
Is that for a normal drop and fill or a Megaflush using a pumped machine?
Martin Hind at Dartford Transmissions and Autocare is the place to go if you’re in Bromley  Visitor from fullfatrr.com
RR Vogue SE 2011 4.4 TDV8
1974 Lightweight
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NJSS
Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
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That sounds expensive, presumably it's a megaflush and includes a new sump?
Don't forget to tell your insurers about the Alive remap; expect the premium to increase somewhat.
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| 3rd Jul 2020 4:56 pm |
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patersp
Member Since: 09 Jun 2016
Location: Bromley
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DrRobH wrote:Who quoted you?
Is that for a normal drop and fill or a Megaflush using a pumped machine?
Martin Hind at Dartford Transmissions and Autocare is the place to go if you’re in Bromley
It was Gumtree 4x4 in West Sussex. They do the Alive remap so was going to get both done at the same time. I’ll check out Martin Hind. Cheers.
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| 3rd Jul 2020 5:06 pm |
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patersp
Member Since: 09 Jun 2016
Location: Bromley
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NJSS wrote:That sounds expensive, presumably it's a megaflush and includes a new sump?
Don't forget to tell your insurers about the Alive remap; expect the premium to increase somewhat.
NJSS
I thought it was a bit expensive. I’ve asked the above question.
I’ve heard that some insurers don’t ramp up the premium for the remap but I’m not holding my breath.
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| 3rd Jul 2020 5:07 pm |
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patersp
Member Since: 09 Jun 2016
Location: Bromley
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Cheers for the info Mickey. Shame you’re in Scotland 
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| 3rd Jul 2020 5:57 pm |
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patersp
Member Since: 09 Jun 2016
Location: Bromley
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DrRobH wrote:Who quoted you?
Is that for a normal drop and fill or a Megaflush using a pumped machine?
Martin Hind at Dartford Transmissions and Autocare is the place to go if you’re in Bromley
Dartford have quoted £280 inc VAT for flush only or £525 inc VAT for flush / filter.
Would you guys recommend a filter change as well?
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| 4th Jul 2020 9:54 am |
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kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
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I’d megaflush only but’s that’s my personal opinion. I’ve got a 15 year old D3 with 260k km on, flushed at 192k, with original pan & filter.
IF you’re changing the pan and filter, do change the mechatronic sleeve as well at the same time. http://new.lrcat.com/#!/12128/41216/44190/3459/44295 (it’s the biggest in that kit). It can’t be removed unless the pan is down while the cost is not material.
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| 4th Jul 2020 10:17 am |
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DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
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I’d go simple Megaflush only. What I did
Bodsy did mine on the drive. 8 speed. Visitor from fullfatrr.com
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| 4th Jul 2020 2:09 pm |
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patersp
Member Since: 09 Jun 2016
Location: Bromley
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Asked my regular indie if they would do a flush as it’s going in soon for some work on the injectors. They said as a general rule they don’t carry out oil changes on gearboxes because....
“....there is only a 50% chance of making the issue better. In some instances the torque converter (no one has an answer as to why!) rejects the new oil and ends up juddering further. Any customer who wants us to carry out the above repair has to sign a disclaimer before we carry out the works”
Has anybody had experience of this before?
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| 6th Jul 2020 3:29 pm |
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DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Once it’s on it’s way out then consensus is just fix it. Dr Tranny can prolong the agony.... Visitor from fullfatrr.com
RR Vogue SE 2011 4.4 TDV8
1974 Lightweight
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| 6th Jul 2020 4:39 pm |
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sheddist
Member Since: 28 Jan 2019
Location: Telford
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Was planning on replacing oil and filter today, pumping oil in using a 12V pump, a vane type with orange plastic casing and zinc die cast body. Took the pump apart to clean and found fragments of zinc from the housing in there, as removed by the sharp edges of steel vanes rubbing on it. Not good, so no fluid change today. Ordered a different pump! Vane pump relegated to oil suction duties.
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| 16th Aug 2020 6:30 pm |
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DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Sheddist - you’re in Telford I see. Ian Bodsworth who is the mobile guru for gearbox flushing is your neighbour
Highly recommend using him Visitor from fullfatrr.com
RR Vogue SE 2011 4.4 TDV8
1974 Lightweight
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| 16th Aug 2020 7:10 pm |
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Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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patersp wrote:Asked my regular indie if they would do a flush as it’s going in soon for some work on the injectors. They said as a general rule they don’t carry out oil changes on gearboxes because....
“....there is only a 50% chance of making the issue better. In some instances the torque converter (no one has an answer as to why!) rejects the new oil and ends up juddering further. Any customer who wants us to carry out the above repair has to sign a disclaimer before we carry out the works”
Has anybody had experience of this before?
In all the boxes I've flushed, I've had no feedback to say the issue was made worse. However...
New oil isn't a magic fix, same as Dr Tranny. You may well prolong the life of the box, but at some point, it will need remedial work to repair properly
That said, we do have a forum member who suffered gearbox failure after a flush, but that particular issue was mentioned 8n a JLR TSB... My D3 Build Thread
TDV8 Retrofit Build Thread
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